to die for your life, that is the answer

[mkirkpatrick]

I would agree to this and add that everyone is all-important, and everything is created equal.

That is absolutely spoton
Sub,weare all indeed equal,although there are those who think that they are more equal than others,we know who they are do we not??


kindest regards michael.

[jsdawson]

I would agree to this and add that everyone is all-important, and everything is created equal.

Importance, popularity and equality are relative terms. We exist temporarily in this, the dimension of duality where everything becomes relative, based upon perspective and perception. Creation implies origin. We exist before this experience, during and after this experience. From my conscious perception and perspective here on earth, the equality you speak of eludes observation. Jefferson, most notably, said "all men are created equal" and it sounds good, but as a practical matter, realistically in this experience, only the concept exists, even in terms of equal measure, when taken literally, two substances cannot be absolutely equal. Equality becomes relegated to the subjective experience of each person's perception and their perspective. In law, the ideal of equality remains desirable but as elusive as justice. In medicine, the response of two human forms to identical (as humanly possible) treatment may be similar, but not equal. This experience, in this dimension, lacks the perfection necessary to move beyond the concept of equality. Observation alone should indicate that the different forms of consciousness we perceive exist with unequal measures of ability. Some with abilities superior to the human form while others remain relatively inferior, from the human perspective, in terms of functionality, efficency and productivity. Should we presume to determine the equality of a thing when, while in this human form, we have not been given the ability to view the thing with perfect objectivity. Our observations themselves rely upon the human form's limited sensory perceptions. These words and this medium of expression do not adequately address the paradox of this paradigm.

[subversion]

Importance, popularity and equality are relative terms.

No, these are all absolute terms. In fact, they should all be synonyms. Everything is good, because everything is popular, because everything is important, and everything is created equal.

[subversion]

From my conscious perception and perspective here on earth, the equality you speak of eludes observation. Jefferson, most notably, said "all men are created equal" and it sounds good, but as a practical matter, realistically in this experience, only the concept exists, even in terms of equal measure, when taken literally, two substances cannot be absolutely equal.

If you would just observe the world in the correct manner you would see that everything is created equal. This means that everything=everything, or alternatively, that everything is equal to it's own value. Nothing on the other hand, has no value, and thus we cannot ascertain whether nothing is created equal or not. We can, however, ascertain that everything is created equal.

All men are created equal is not entirely true because it implies that men are unequal to anything besides men. This is not true, for it is not just men who are created equal, but everything. And yes, even when taken literally, everything is a true state of equality. Superlative!

Should we presume to determine the equality of a thing when, while in this human form, we have not been given the ability to view the thing with perfect objectivity.

Are you sure? For we have been given the ability to view everything with perfect objectivity (i.e. absolute subjectivity).

cheers to all

[subversion]

In the veign of the discussion of this thread, I would agree that all deaths are equally important. However, it is my opinion that those who appreciate life the most tend to die for it.

[jsdawson]

If you would just observe the world in the correct manner you would see that everything is created equal.

In the kindest possible terms. This observation (the selected quotation) on its face infers that there is a "correct manner in which to observe the world"
This statement results from a personal value judgment. With respect, view the world in your manner and I will in mine. Having said this our views appear to be unequal, therefore everything does not appear to equal everything. The statements I made, from my perspective, stand in terms of the soundness of the reasoning applied. Sincerely and without malice

[subversion]

In the kindest possible terms. This observation (the selected quotation) on its face infers that there is a "correct manner in which to observe the world"
This statement results from a personal value judgment. With respect, view the world in your manner and I will in mine. Having said this our views appear to be unequal, therefore everything does not appear to equal everything. The statements I made, from my perspective, stand in terms of the soundness of the reasoning applied. Sincerely and without malice

I appreciate you reasoning with sound composure. However, I must maintain, if there is not a correct way to view the world, then what is the Theory of Everything? My personal value judgement is that everything must be a good thing, i.e. it is created equal. Nothing however is not necessarely a good thing, i.e. it is not necessarely created equal. Notice that it is only necessary for us to state what is true, and we can not necessarely state what is not true. This proves the positivity of the world!

That having been said, I believe that our views are the same. Perhaps you have just not realized it yet?