"I" of the Mind as "Absolute." ? ? ?

[Infinite Consciousness]

Is the "I" of the mind "Absolute" ? ? ?

Quote LG, "We're simply searching for the absolute fundamentals that created all space / matter / energy actions___At least, I am." Lloyd.


Lloyd, are you searching for,

(A) The absolute fundamental that created all space / matter / energy, actions;

(B) The absolute fundamental that space / matter / energy / actions are composed of ; or

(C) The absolute fundamental substance that is manifesting and bringing to life the fundamental substance of the physical-material universe ? ? ?


Lloyd, In post #99 Re: The Simplest Toe, you say, "We must work out the absolute physical fundamentals first, by determining what exactly was or is first and truly fundamental. Then, and only then, can we proceed." Lloyd

This attempt to understand absolute fundamentals is flawed right from the start because it assumes that the absolute fundamentals are physical and how can you determine what exactly is first and truly fundamental if you are biased in favor of the physical i.e. matter ? Unless and until you stop this focusing on the physical as the only reality you will never in fact proceed.

Lloyd, your absolute is the absolute "I" of the mind - and your fundamental substance is the electro-magnetic congealed energy of thought, (i.e. frozen or congealed light as seen in the Hau experiment) If your absolute "i" of the mind is the true absolute then do you not realize that it is your absolute "I" of the mind that is the "cause" (of lust, anger, greed, attachment and ego,) and consequently is the source of all of humanities inhumanity to his fellow man and in turn all of humanities needless suffering) which are its "effects" ? ? ?

If the "i" of the mind is the absolute fundamental principle of the universe then its qualities of lust, anger, greed, attachment and ego, are fundamentals (i.e. the Law of the Jungle) embedded in the substance of the physical-material universe.

How on earth can economic methods or discoveries in physics change or alter the fundamental qualities of the absolute "I" of the mind re lust, anger, greed, attachment and ego, that are embedded in the electro-magnetic energies of thought as the fundamental substance of the physical-material universe ? ? ?

Let's make it very clear as to what i am saying here. If the "I" of the mind is the absolute of the physical-material universe - then it alone is the "Cause" and all of humanities suffering is its "Effects."

If the "I" of the mind is absolute then there is no solution and humanity is doomed to never ending imprisonment on the inexorable "Wheel of Life" grinding all alike under the "Law of Karma" or "As You Sow - So Shall You Reap," "As You Think - So You Become."

The "I" of the mind in order to be "absolute" must be completely self contained i.e. not dependent on any thing else to make it work. If it requires anything else to get it to work then it is not the fundamental substance of the universe and definitely not absolute.

The "i" of the mind requires the thinking process to make it work - without thought the mind does not work - consequently the "I" of the mind is not absolute ! And, its thinking is not the fundamental substance because it is - inert - lifeless - matter - brought to life by the attention i.e. the True Absolute !

The "i" of the mind and its thinking do not work without the attention i.e. the mind only works when you give your attention to it. Which means that the attention (the outer expression of the soul) is the true absolute in that nothing works without it !

The "i" of the mind is not absolute because it requires (A) thinking to manifest itself, and, (B) the attention to bring it to life, without these two the mind as the physical-material universe does not exist and is nothing but a profound illusion that we are creating through our mind and its thinking and that we are imprisoned in - a 3d hologram of our own making in which there is no real object only interference waves of light and sound - that our brain decodes as the physical-material universe that we see.

We imprint our in-formation (thought) of the universe on the electro-magnetic energy of thinking and are imprisoned in a false illusory world of matter - a 3d hologram - we are creating and grounding ourselves in and we can never know or understand this unless and until we rise above it and see the Truth.

[mkirkpatrick]

Thanks William,The "I" of me that has swollen and collapsed over the years,sometimes
swollen with false pride (is there a real pride?)Other times collapsed with self doubts,the
journey of realization and understanding has many ups and downs.

The "I" that outwardly seems relative,and inwardly seems absolute.



regards michael.