[N0B0DY]

Originally Posted by Profpat Here is a better one on Love: Jesus said to him, “‘you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” (Matthew 22:37 – 40)

This is strangely the third time you've quoted this passage to me directly, Pat. Are you trying to tell me that Jesus won't send anyone to hell as a form of tough love?

[N0B0DY]

"Love is the self-givingness of the Aware/Universe/God through the desire of Life to express Itself in terms of creation."

As long as it's a lovely creation, then more power to It and you, Allen.

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY This is strangely the third time you've quoted this passage to me directly, Pat. Are you trying to tell me that Jesus won't send anyone to hell as a form of tough love?

I'm sorry for the redundancy Nobody. I can't speak for Jesus and/or God, but personally believe we create our own heaven or hell right here on Earth.

I think by following Jesus's advice, we can make our stay here more heavenly.

Best to you Nobody,

Pat

[N0B0DY]

Very true on both counts I would say, Pat.

I am only trying to convey, as I was with Cosvis, that rejecting Jesus' advice or accepting Jesus' advice is accepting our own. In other words, with or without Jesus, you would love your neighbor for some innate known reason I would gather.

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY Very true on both counts I would say, Pat. I am only trying to convey, as I was with Cosvis, that rejecting Jesus' advice or accepting Jesus' advice is accepting our own. In other words, with or without Jesus, you would love your neighbor for some innate known reason I would gather.

Actually Nobody, it was through a direct experience of God's love that I was truly able to understand and follow Jesus's message.
Prior to that I believe I was faking it.

I do have an innate concept of the necessity of community and family.

[N0B0DY]

Put it this way, Pat. If you had the direct experience of love, would you love your neighbor even if you had never heard of Jesus?

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY Put it this way, Pat. If you had the direct experience of love, would you love your neighbor even if you had never heard of Jesus?

YES I WOULD!

[Profpat]

[Tina]

Originally Posted by Profpat YES I WOULD!

I've been metaphorically "off the Planet" for a while so just touching base - saw this comment and think It's one of my favorite ideas and hardest things in the world to love our neighbour (the difficult ones). even if nobody ever said it - it is something we all need to do.

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Tina I've been metaphorically "off the Planet" for a while so just touching base - saw this comment and think It's one of my favorite ideas and hardest things in the world to love our neighbour (the difficult ones). even if nobody ever said it - it is something we all need to do.

Hi Tina;

Glad to see you're back and posting.

It was actually your profound statement that made me realize that first I needed to believe in God's love for me before I could pass it on to friends, neighbors, and yes even enemies. Without that true belief I was faking it.

Best to you,

Pat