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    Re: Everything is nothing

    Under such a formidable current
    one's insignificance becomes readily apparent

    No place to go
    No more time for talk
    As the waves gently caress
    the shore

    Love ya,
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    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    May I have this Dance with you Love?
    Who's asking?

    Forget the city....
    Lets walk, lets talk, along the Liquid Gold sandy summer beaches.


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    Re: Everything is nothing



    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    Deepak Chopra is a gentle man with a gentle voice. . Enjoy

    A wizard exists in all of us. This wizard sees and knows everything.
    The wizard is beyond opposites of light and dark, good and evil,
    all pleasure and pain.
    Everything the wizard sees has its roots in the unseen world.
    Nature reflects the mood of the wizard.
    The body and the mind may sleep, but the wizard is always awake.
    The wizard possesses the secret of immortality.


    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yU9QsbsAVGg

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    Re: Everything is nothing

    =dleviwing

    Hi Mel;
    I would say the Earth you live on hardly gives you time to wake in morning or go to bed at night. My Earth is about 24,000 miles in circumference and require about 24 hours to do one revolution;
    Hi David.

    believe IT and trust like a child 'we' are from the same place which is every-where and no-where simultaneously eternally.
    It's a magical mystery of not-knowing .. yet being safe in the knowing we are.

    Omnipresence Omniscience Omnipotence [One with the knowing]

    One without a Second

    WHAT AN AMAZING PARADOX.

    A very grand mystery indeed.
    Strange magic.


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    Re: Everything is nothing

    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter View Post
    Under such a formidable current
    one's insignificance becomes readily apparent

    No place to go
    No more time for talk
    As the waves gently caress
    the shore

    Love ya,
    D.
    No place to go.
    Comic consciousness is home!
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CUG6Ta...eature=related



    And there ain't no-body home!
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xOf4Sk...eature=related

    Love ya,
    M

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    Re: Everything is nothing

    ''We are as much alive as we keep the earth alive.''


    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R7n71pm0K04&NR=1

    Nature is beauty and love.
    Nature is trying to know IT_self ..

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    Re: Everything is nothing

    I have a serious problem with the word "create." The very use of this word implies "a creator." That is, it implies a pre-existing, cognitive intelligence who from "outside" created existence. This limits one's thinking. Existence can have more avenues than "creation." Transformational creation can occur from inside forces, not outside ones. Cognitive intelligence is very limited in scope and would not be sufficient for this kind of "creation." Cognitive intelligence simply would not be able to handle the complexity. This is why humans must have computers to analyze very complex things because cognitive intelligence simply cannot do it. There is another form of intelligence that, although at first sight it appears trivial, it has the longterm power to exceed congitive intelligences trillions of times over. So much so that cognitive intelligence is a pale and primative little brother.

    It begins with transformational energy which becomes forms of matter in part as temperature levels cool. The 4 simple laws (physical-energy relationships) form the basis for interaction. Each interaction creates more avenues for additional relationships as it emerges into higher-level relationships. These simple laws again determine how these relate. At each level is increased levels of complexity until new levels of interaction are born. This is "emergence." This becomes a "self-organizing system" with feedback loops that represent a simple form of intelligence. This happens trillions and trillions of times as the universe "evolves" into ever more complex states. Each new level of existence has its own new properties in its relationships to other existing parts.

    First pure energy (no matter existed). Then the big bang and spacetime is transformationally created. Spacetime is an expanding field. As expansion occures, temperatures drop. Just as matter can undergo phase transitons (ie WATER from water vapor, to water, to ice - gas, liquid, solid), the energy of the big bang undergoes a phase transition and the first quarks and leptons appear. Still too hot to form "matter" as in atoms. Further expansion and further cooling allows the strong and weak nuclear forces to operate and protons and neutrons are born. Further expansion and cooling allows the electromagnetic force to capture leptons making the first "matter" ie ATOMS. Now we have yet more "relationships" being born as atoms can combine to form molecules and thus "macro matter" is now born (emerged) from the relationships. Macro matter becomes the "matter" we know and experience. Now gravity is able to function as further cooling allow gravity to capture macro matter. Eventually hydrogen and helium clouds condense due to gravity and another emergence occurs, the first star is born.

    Without going for for a very long time - which can be done - to show all ther transitional stages of formation, the universe as we know it is born. And now we have yet higher levels of existence. We now have "chemical" relationships. The process continues and compounds form. Stars, of course, create all matter. Chemical process eventually develop the complexity to become "life." And life continues to evolve. This process of emergence continues to repeat itself over and over and over countless times as complexity grows. All these "systems" have a "built-in" intelligence that emerges from prior relationships. All this happens without cognitive intelligence. No "creator" is needed.

    Look at ant colonies. Ants have survived on our planet for hundreds of millions of years through all the violent transitions our planet has gone through and they have adapted to survive and it was all done without a single bit of cognitive intelligence. Simple rules allowed everything to happen over time.

    One limits one's self when one looks into "cognitive intelligence." There is no instance of cognitive intelligence forming the universe but transformational intelligence leading to ever higher levels of emergence is the driving for of all change and development.

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    Re: Everything is nothing

    The very first movement within the void of the abyss, some call "The Whim of God", was the very first thing that "mattered", it was infant creation in progress.

    It was a movement [a Whim] from involution to evolution.

    The rest is His story...Science.

    Drop the idea of being someone,
    because you already are a masterpiece.





    Out of The Blue . . . A new creature.....




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    Re: Everything is nothing

    Cognitive intelligence is relative to man and reflects a mans creative spark.

    A chip off the Ole block some would say.

    Creating order out of chaos.

    Light out of darkness.

    Giving Light unto the world.

    As we see it.

    "God" is the "That" god of your understanding.

    I don't believe in the god you don't believe in either.

    Quote Originally Posted by rbennet9 View Post
    I have a serious problem with the word "create." The very use of this word implies "a creator." That is, it implies a pre-existing, cognitive intelligence who from "outside" created existence. This limits one's thinking. Existence can have more avenues than "creation." Transformational creation can occur from inside forces, not outside ones. Cognitive intelligence is very limited in scope and would not be sufficient for this kind of "creation." Cognitive intelligence simply would not be able to handle the complexity. This is why humans must have computers to analyze very complex things because cognitive intelligence simply cannot do it. There is another form of intelligence that, although at first sight it appears trivial, it has the longterm power to exceed congitive intelligences trillions of times over. So much so that cognitive intelligence is a pale and primative little brother.

    It begins with transformational energy which becomes forms of matter in part as temperature levels cool. The 4 simple laws (physical-energy relationships) form the basis for interaction. Each interaction creates more avenues for additional relationships as it emerges into higher-level relationships. These simple laws again determine how these relate. At each level is increased levels of complexity until new levels of interaction are born. This is "emergence." This becomes a "self-organizing system" with feedback loops that represent a simple form of intelligence. This happens trillions and trillions of times as the universe "evolves" into ever more complex states. Each new level of existence has its own new properties in its relationships to other existing parts.

    First pure energy (no matter existed). Then the big bang and spacetime is transformationally created. Spacetime is an expanding field. As expansion occures, temperatures drop. Just as matter can undergo phase transitons (ie WATER from water vapor, to water, to ice - gas, liquid, solid), the energy of the big bang undergoes a phase transition and the first quarks and leptons appear. Still too hot to form "matter" as in atoms. Further expansion and further cooling allows the strong and weak nuclear forces to operate and protons and neutrons are born. Further expansion and cooling allows the electromagnetic force to capture leptons making the first "matter" ie ATOMS. Now we have yet more "relationships" being born as atoms can combine to form molecules and thus "macro matter" is now born (emerged) from the relationships. Macro matter becomes the "matter" we know and experience. Now gravity is able to function as further cooling allow gravity to capture macro matter. Eventually hydrogen and helium clouds condense due to gravity and another emergence occurs, the first star is born.

    Without going for for a very long time - which can be done - to show all ther transitional stages of formation, the universe as we know it is born. And now we have yet higher levels of existence. We now have "chemical" relationships. The process continues and compounds form. Stars, of course, create all matter. Chemical process eventually develop the complexity to become "life." And life continues to evolve. This process of emergence continues to repeat itself over and over and over countless times as complexity grows. All these "systems" have a "built-in" intelligence that emerges from prior relationships. All this happens without cognitive intelligence. No "creator" is needed.

    Look at ant colonies. Ants have survived on our planet for hundreds of millions of years through all the violent transitions our planet has gone through and they have adapted to survive and it was all done without a single bit of cognitive intelligence. Simple rules allowed everything to happen over time.

    One limits one's self when one looks into "cognitive intelligence." There is no instance of cognitive intelligence forming the universe but transformational intelligence leading to ever higher levels of emergence is the driving for of all change and development.

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    Re: Everything is nothing

    Out of The Blue . . . A new creature.....

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    Re: Everything is nothing

    Remarkable isn't it.

    Hello Love

    Good Morning Sunshine.
    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    Out of The Blue . . . A new creature.....

 

 
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