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    Re: Alien intelligence.

    Lol this is kind of funny to look at..

    A friend of mine says our government is trying to introduce ideas of interbreeding into our children by supporting cartons with mixed breeds. He thinks that this is true because of alien influences. I asked him what’s so wrong with that?

    We have a common problem with stress. We question what other peoples intentions are all the time. We fear others like a plague. So if you notice fat people will often be sitting and conversing with fat people, blacks with balcks, nerds with nerds, preps with preps, all the stereo typical types of people or race. Why? Because we don’t feel out of place with others like us. We can relax, relate, talk. This just shows us how socially week we are as race, we cant even accept our own kind. We may think we have nothing to offer others or think they are not interested in us. it’s a sad way to think really. But it is because of this we need to see more differences. If we become desensitized then perhaps we can grow as a race, species, people, group or individual.

    We need to ignore our differences and support change. Other wise what other kids would want to play with us on the playground?
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    Re: Alien intelligence.



    In Clarke's book:

    The humans' arms race is brought to a halt by the sudden appearance of mysterious spaceships above all the Earth's great cities. After a week of silence and increasing tension, the aliens, who become known as the Overlords, announce by world-wide broadcast that they have benign intentions and desire to help humanity but also that they will henceforth assume the minimum amount of control which will achieve their aims. As enforcers of peace, they bring salvation and life. They also bring the death of some dreams, as humanity is no longer completely independent and may not pursue certain scientific goals, such as space exploration.

    Under the (mild) domination of the Overlords, Mankind enters a golden age of the greatest peace and prosperity ever known, albeit at the expense of some creativity and freedom. Not every Earthling is content with the bargain, nor accepts the beneficence of the Overlords' long-term intentions. Stormgren, with Karellen's help, survives a kidnap attempt by subversive humans suspicious of the Overlords. Stormgren secretly harbors lingering curiosity about the real Overlord nature and smuggles a device aboard Karellen's spaceship to see behind the one-way screen that separates them. Years later he tells a questioning reporter the device failed. The novel strongly hints that the device did indeed capture an image of the Overlords, which Stormgren saw, but that Stormgren agrees with the Overlords: mankind is unready for what that image revealed.

    The Overlords, the humans finally found out, looked like demons. These Overlords could never experience the final galactic goals of enlightenment and oneness. They were scientifically advanced, but with limitations of the spiritual sense.

    Just because an alien race made it to this planet before we made it to theirs, doesn't mean they will have great wisdom and compassion...

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    Re: Alien intelligence.

    I agree. That is the sort of reason I started this topic. To understand what direction an alien intellect maybe thinking in. As far as we know there are “Billions and Billions” of alien species. To disregard any way of thinking would be a mistake.

    Yet what we can learn is in exploring the possibilities before they become evident. Luck favors the prepared. Just as Gene Roddenberry’s imagination has brought possibility threw imagination.

    As far as accepting the different. It might be alien induced but in thinking about it I can see positives about accepting genetic differences.

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    Re: Alien intelligence.

    At this moment, I feel like I am watching alien intelligence on television.

    On the CBC evening news, they are raving about the "discovery" and results of studies that are proving how exercise positively impacts education.

    Additionally, the study shows that exercising 4-5 times a week will reduce your risk of Alzheimersby 50% and so on and so on...

    Common sense, the term is an oxymoron, or possibly I am an anachronism, or both....lol...

    ....or maybe I am one of their advance scouts

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    Oh great just what we needed an anachronous scout... Reminds me of the Austin Powers movies.

    Direct studies might cause contamination you know, distance is preferable. Humans are unsure of their total capability, as they are evolving too, an advanced intellect may prefer caution to known abilities. Or they might consider, what the hell just go down and play around what damage could we do that they aren’t doing them selves? Silly humans.

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    Re: Alien intelligence.

    Such is the hazard of scouting. Indeed, there are risks involved in studying this species.

    Although it is the female that is generally characterized as being of fleeting disposition, in a random study of the male of the species, there is far greater range of (e)motion than was earlier assumed.

    This mission is likely to take longer than first anticipated.

    Will be out of communicator range. Must divest myself of all telltale technology in order that I may get "up close and personal", the better to study these beings. Assuming female form presents as an advantage. The males are generally quite receptive to the proximity of females, and do not perceive them as threatening.

    Communication blackout. Agent Darkness over and out.

    (Off to work, to study some of those mysterious beings, lol)

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    Re: Alien intelligence.

    Quote Originally Posted by timeparticle View Post


    In Clarke's book:

    The humans' arms race is brought to a halt by the sudden appearance of mysterious spaceships above all the Earth's great cities. After a week of silence and increasing tension, the aliens, who become known as the Overlords, announce by world-wide broadcast that they have benign intentions and desire to help humanity but also that they will henceforth assume the minimum amount of control which will achieve their aims. As enforcers of peace, they bring salvation and life. They also bring the death of some dreams, as humanity is no longer completely independent and may not pursue certain scientific goals, such as space exploration.

    Under the (mild) domination of the Overlords, Mankind enters a golden age of the greatest peace and prosperity ever known, albeit at the expense of some creativity and freedom. Not every Earthling is content with the bargain, nor accepts the beneficence of the Overlords' long-term intentions. Stormgren, with Karellen's help, survives a kidnap attempt by subversive humans suspicious of the Overlords. Stormgren secretly harbors lingering curiosity about the real Overlord nature and smuggles a device aboard Karellen's spaceship to see behind the one-way screen that separates them. Years later he tells a questioning reporter the device failed. The novel strongly hints that the device did indeed capture an image of the Overlords, which Stormgren saw, but that Stormgren agrees with the Overlords: mankind is unready for what that image revealed.

    The Overlords, the humans finally found out, looked like demons. These Overlords could never experience the final galactic goals of enlightenment and oneness. They were scientifically advanced, but with limitations of the spiritual sense.

    Just because an alien race made it to this planet before we made it to theirs, doesn't mean they will have great wisdom and compassion...


    Hi TP....sounds like the promise of Utopia from the hounds of hell. The idea of Utopia in life is a fallacy, life is built from simplicity to complexity. The idea of Utopia in the World could only come about from the establishment of love and peace in our hearts...
    This may be a book of fiction but was its author melding a warning of reality within its fictional story?? Was he trying to tell us something important?? CHANELLERS HEED THE CAUTION!!!!!


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    Re: Alien intelligence.

    I was just thinking last night on “just because you can doesn’t mean you should”. Not to say an alien intelligence might be extremely wasteful but perhaps they don’t have to worry about source as much as we do. Source of income, materials what not. Perhaps they have learned a different philosophy because of their abundances of materials or funding (if you will). “Why not try ever thing at least once”, perhaps it is a matter of living and experiencing every thing, with out worry of waste.

    Some one was telling me about a coast to coast broadcast the other night. The guest was talking about transporting and had a scale for human development. Said we would reach the level of Star Treks “Q” by level 4, on a scale to 5 (if I remember correctly). Perhaps thousands of years away. Yet it got me thinking about our own direction of thinking or intelligence. I haven’t come to a conclusion yet but I feel we are alien to our selves now. Maybe in the future we will be less alien.

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    Re: Alien intelligence.

    Former astronaut: Man not alone in universe
    April 20, 2009, CNN

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/20/u...nce/index.html

    Former NASA astronaut Edgar Mitchell, who was part of the 1971 Apollo 14 moon mission, asserted Monday that extraterrestrial life exists, and that the truth is being concealed by the U.S. and other governments. He delivered his remarks during an appearance at the National Press Club following the conclusion of the fifth annual X-Conference, a meeting of UFO activists and researchers studying the possibility of alien life forms. Mitchell grew up in Roswell, New Mexico, which some UFO believers maintain was the site of a UFO crash in 1947. He said residents of his hometown "had been hushed and told not to talk about their experience by military authorities. And being a local boy and having been to the moon, they considered me reliable enough to whisper in my ear their particular story." Roughly 10 years ago, Mitchell claimed, he was finally given an appointment at Pentagon to discuss what he had been told. An unnamed admiral working for the Joint Chiefs of Staff promised to uncover the truth behind the Roswell story, Mitchell said. The stories of a UFO crash "were confirmed," but the admiral was then denied access when he "tried to get into the inner workings of that process." The same admiral, Mitchell claimed, now denies the story. "I urge those who are doubtful: Read the books, read the lore, start to understand what has really been going on. Because there really is no doubt we are being visited," he said. "The universe that we live in is much more wondrous, exciting, complex and far-reaching than we were ever able to know up to this point in time."



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    Re: Alien intelligence.

    Once we have enough knowledge and intelligence to solve cold fusion then space travel is just light-second away to the outer planets.
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