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    Re: In the blink of God's eye

    Now probably an absurd question but I will ask it anyway....smiles...

    When I had my NDE did I get entangled with the gravitational wave?? Is that even possible from your view??

    Also is the ether debate settled one way or the other or is that still something scientists are experimenting on??


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    Re: In the blink of God's eye

    No, only magnetic field. But still real and physical.
    No, and slot of what I posted about is not even known, we are still kids with toys. The more they confuse you the more candy they get.
    Last edited by leskey; 04-19-2009 at 09:38 PM.

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    Re: In the blink of God's eye

    Are you saying no I could not get entangled with the gravitational wave but I could get entanged with the magnetic field. Sorry....keeping track of all these different things is tedious for me....

    So as far as science goes, your telling me in essence that maybe everyone has a piece of the truth but nobody is getting together to make the bigger picture??


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    Re: In the blink of God's eye

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    Hi Michael....maybe you can help me understand why you and Greg are discussing an inflationary cosmology of sequential steps or a process as opposed to the Big Bang Theory.
    Hi Mikal .... The Big bang as initially proposed has a number of serious problems. Most of these have been resolved by a better version that does away with the bang and replaces it with an enormous burst of inflation ... inflationary cosmology does not see the universe starting from a singularity, but sees it as pre-existing prior to the inflationary burst.

    Quote Originally Posted by michael turner View Post
    When is a solid, a solid?
    Thought experiment....
    I take a rigid glass rod
    15 feet long
    1 inch in diameter
    Zero modulus of elasticity
    I string it up in front of a class of students in a lecture hall. I have two apples, a rubber hammer, and a flashlight.
    My two personal assistants that I borrowed from victoria secret, so students will show up at my class, each bite a chunk out of the apples. I instruct them to stick the bit apples on each end of.. the glass rod with the bit part facing up.
    Now I touch the rubber hammer to one end and the visual vibration shows the speed of sound. I shine a light I. One end of the glass rod and that is the speed of light.
    But I can turn one end of the glass rod and both apples turn instanteously. This is instantaneous communication faster than the speed of light.

    Now imagine that all light waves have an aspect that allows zero modulus of elasticity. Imagine that once you have a signal set up you could rotate the magnetic field at one end of the transmission and the entire signal rotates instantaneously.
    Quite simple, solids can act as one and all move together and a wave can have properties of a solid to itself, and identicle other waves.
    Hi Michael ..... I don't believe the glass rod has a modulus of elasticity that allows its molecules to transfer electrons faster than the speed of light ? Why do you think so ?

    Even tho this is an analogy ?

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    Re: In the blink of God's eye

    Ok Greg...thanks...whats the difference between the universe in the beginning as a singularity and the universe in the beginning as a pre-existing state...??

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    Re: In the blink of God's eye

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikal View Post
    Are you saying no I could not get entangled with the gravitational wave but I could get entanged with the magnetic field. Sorry....keeping track of all these different things is tedious for me....

    So as far as science goes, your telling me in essence that maybe everyone has a piece of the truth but nobody is getting together to make the bigger picture??


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    Re: In the blink of God's eye

    Ok Michael...I belong to a science site called Thunderbolts....they see the universe as an electrical universe....would you see that as correct???

    I guess I am looking at all theories and ways of looking at the universe through science's eyes....


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    Re: In the blink of God's eye

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Hi Mikal .... The Big bang as initially proposed has a number of serious problems. Most of these have been resolved by a better version that does away with the bang and replaces it with an enormous burst of inflation ... inflationary cosmology does not see the universe starting from a singularity, but sees it as pre-existing prior to the inflationary burst.



    Hi Michael ..... I don't believe the glass rod has a modulus of elasticity that allows its molecules to transfer electrons faster than the speed of light ? Why do you think so ?

    Even tho this is an analogy ?

    This is michael's answer-
    "I don't believe electrons can be transfered faster than the speed of themselves. Or light. What I do believe is that a solid structure can be turned and it all move at once. I can set up a radiation wave between two points and turn the magnetic field at one end, and the entire structure rotates simutaneously as the emission is going on as long as the connection is maintained. The wave info that you are suggesting is the speed of light but the info from turning the Magnetic field is instantaneous."-Michael Turner
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    Re: In the blink of God's eye

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikal View Post
    Ok Michael...I belong to a science site called Thunderbolts....they see the universe as an electrical universe....would you see that as correct???

    I guess I am looking at all theories and ways of looking at the universe through science's eyes....


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    I assume that the thunderbolts know that you cannot have an electric field with out a magnetic field. The magnetic field is the spinal cord to the electric field and the electric field is the skin to the magnetic field. Interesting analogy. It is one level under this relationship that I dare enter. It is the osteoporosis of the magnetic field backbone that I begin my story
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    Re: In the blink of God's eye

    Yes there is alot of talk there and alot of articles to read concerning the EM fields and the Universe as electric....fantastic pictures of outer space too...

    Okay that helps me to know a little better because believe me at this point I do not know who to believe for sure but I guess am willing to listen to all to see what I can dredge out of the discussions that go on here...

    Thanks for your patience....

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