Help

[timeparticle]

Tough Love Help...

In regards to a tough love help response from the physical universe, there is really only one scenario that stands out above all the rest.

There is a strong belief in our civilization that most all of the major religions hold on to with great passion in some form. This vehement latching on to a specific belief about the way life is and should be is, in my opinion, exceedingly detrimental to our planetary societies.

It is the belief that god is a 'he'. Judaism, Christianity, and the Islam religions all refer to god as a he. Buddhism and Hinduism and the Bahai faith also refer to god as a he. In Hinduism, their is a primary female goddess, and other female figures, but it always comes back to the main man, the he. The Greeks and Romans had their gods, but the he was their main man.

Not that their is anything wrong with this belief, in it of itself. The male has been the head of the family for thousands of years, so why shouldn't the same structure be true for the heavens? "Why should a 'she' be god, anyway?"... So the agreement is established.

This very strong belief shared and agreed upon by most all men and women pray and commit to it's persistence. It is self perpetuating. It is also extremely detrimental to our survival as a race.

This is where help comes in. In times of great need, as now, we look to our belief systems to help us through. But, what if the physical universe help response is coming from a contrary position? What if the universe really wants to help, and in fact, is giving a help response, coming from a contrary or alternate position to the belief systems we are vehemently holding on to? Looking the other direction, would we miss the help offered?

This is where the apparent tough love help comes in. In order to give the billions of people on our planet help, the physical universe will serve us the appropriate help needed. If it comes from a contrary position about god, the help will be exceedingly uncomfortable to most. As the pain and suffering increases, most of the people will lock even more firmly to their set beliefs, not intending to cause more suffering for themselves, but doing so, anyway. As the help from the physical universe continues to grow, the true believers of their faith in the 'he' will suffer further.

If they could let go of their ingrained belief about god, their suffering would lessen. But they don't, won't or choose not to.

The physical universe will always give help. immediately. How we accept and acknowledge it is of our own choosing. And with this choice comes our destined future.

[labelwench]

In recent years, the theory that our species is genetically programmed for spirituality has been funded and researched, such research ongoing.

Rather, that some persons inherit and possess a genetic root that would bias toward the spiritual and that a reinforcing environment would further develop that tendency.

Therefore, such genetic disposition allows for individual experience of the spiritual or divine, as well as potential for group worship or 'religion.'

The question of what benefits this gene offers our species for survival is also under scrutiny.

One thought that comes to my mind, is that the collective experience of spirituality is very collaborative, and is perhaps the balance for our very strong competitive nature.

As we seem headed toward a time of serious questioning and decision making for the survival of our species, the role of this collaborative gene may soon become evident.

What concerns me greatly, is that there is an apparent competition between some of these religions, with exclusion and intolerance as a default.

If they could let go of their ingrained belief about god, their suffering would lessen. But they don't, won't or choose not to.

The physical universe will always give help. immediately. How we accept and acknowledge it is of our own choosing. And with this choice comes our destined future.

Originally by Timeparticle

Since it would be inequitable to ask for any religious sector to relinquish their beliefs, perhaps we are needing a colaboration of atheists or children (born without the religion gene and devoid of religious conditioning) to lead us beyond this point.

Hamer also stresses that while he may have located a genetic root for spirituality, that is not the same as a genetic root for religion. Spirituality is a feeling or a state of mind; religion is the way that state gets codified into law. Our genes don't get directly involved in writing legislation. As Hamer puts it, perhaps understating a bit the emotional connection many have to their religions, "Spirituality is intensely personal; religion is institutional."

At least one faith, according to one of its best-known scholars, formalizes the idea of gene-based spirituality and even puts a pretty spin on it. Buddhists, says Robert Thurman, professor of Buddhist studies at Columbia University, have long entertained the idea that we inherit a spirituality gene from the person we were in a previous life. Smaller than an ordinary gene, it combines with two larger physical genes we inherit from our parents, and together they shape our physical and spiritual profile. Says Thurman: "The spiritual gene helps establish a general trust in the universe, a sense of openness and generosity." Buddhists, he adds, would find Hamer's possible discovery "amusing and fun."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...995465,00.html

[SteveA]

In recent years, the theory that our species is genetically programmed for spirituality has been funded and researched, such research ongoing.

Rather, that some persons inherit and possess a genetic root that would bias toward the spiritual and that a reinforcing environment would further develop that tendency.

Therefore, such genetic disposition allows for individual experience of the spiritual or divine, as well as potential for group worship or 'religion.'

The question of what benefits this gene offers our species for survival is also under scrutiny.

Those are some interesting comments. There could be some evolutionary benefit to a longer term spiritual view due to a resistance to domination by society.

Slavery appears evolutionarily detrimental as slaves tend to benefit less from their own abilities and their survival is in the hands of someone else - though I guess if you could "choose" a good master that may not be the case, but then that's not really slavery but mutual cooperation even if it's in some ways subservience, it's still done by ones choice and the evolutionary results are determined by this choice. It could also be evolutionarily beneficial to take a position as an apprentice and exchange some measure of devotion for knowledge, skills and protection.

But notice that if a group of people did not accept being ruled by anyone outside this group, then there would be no benefit for someone to attempt to rule them and likely only negative consequences to such attempts would result. Hence strong beliefs shared amongst a group of willing participants could provide a deterrant to any other form of domination, though the beliefs themselves could be seen as the dominating factor ... whether or not those beliefs are ultimately beneficial or not would appear up to nature/God/evolution to decide, but it would appear to at least be resistant to external human domination (again, only to the extent such domination was incompatible with that culture - if the culture is spiritually oriented, then it would appear more resistant to domination by any specific person or group of people, unless it was more religious and that person or group of people had large control over the religious institution)

One thought that comes to my mind, is that the collective experience of spirituality is very collaborative, and is perhaps the balance for our very strong competitive nature.

Consider also that a good competitor may require collaboration

As we seem headed toward a time of serious questioning and decision making for the survival of our species, the role of this collaborative gene may soon become evident.

What concerns me greatly, is that there is an apparent competition between some of these religions, with exclusion and intolerance as a default.

That does appear a potential problem, though exclusion itself may not be a problem and could actually be beneficial for the species as a whole. (The Titanic is a good example - you don't want all your eggs in the same basket unless you can be sure it's built of steel ... oh wait, steel can still sink ... better to have more than one basket).

If we're looking at purely evolutionary pressures, there could be a pressure for intolerance of things that appear threatening or harmful to keep these at bay. Though there would appear no evolutionary benefit for maintaining such a state - though a possible problem is over misperception. Something may appear to be threatening or harmful that is ultimately beneficial and should be tolerated, but people can't always "see the big picture" and so it can be a learning process, but then again there are things that do appear to require immediate action to defend onesself and so the "big picture" may have "shades of gray".

Since it would be inequitable to ask for any religious sector to relinquish their beliefs, perhaps we are needing a colaboration of atheists or children (born without the religion gene and devoid of religious conditioning) to lead us beyond this point.

Not a bad idea, though of course there's no guarantee anyone would follow, but I think there are many people who're looking for something better. (I tend to be a skeptic and cynic though and not too trusting of the intentions of people who want to lead ... especially if they want more than just a willing ear).

It would be great to see a day when the intentions of most people could be trusted, but I don't think we're there yet (and it may be a long time before we are). On the other hand, it doesn't do much good to go around and immediately distrust everyone but if you're unsure, maintaining a healthy skepticism doesn't seem too bad.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,995465,00.html

It would seem very likely that people experience things differently and that various modes of thought or intensities and diveristies of emotions could be quite different. A susceptibility or resistance to some drug dependency would appear to depend upon the characteristics of the experience it induces. I know I've heard alcoholism is genetically influenced and this could be true if the body reacts differently between people to alcohol. I'm not trying to say that spirituality or lack of it is like alcoholism (though alcohol is seen as "real" and creates "real" experiences for people), but along similar lines it could be that feelings that are weak in one person may be stronger in another or perceptions that are dim for one person can be more intense to another and genetics would appear likely to be influencial in this.

[timeparticle]

The DNA Nebula...


Help may come from any corner of the physical universe, including deep within our own DNA, or further, into our souls.

The ability to acknowledge this help in everyday life should be exercised and practiced.

[SteveA]

Help may come from any corner of the physical universe, including deep within our own DNA, or further, into our souls.

The ability to acknowledge this help in everyday life should be exercised and practiced.

Great image (I shouldn't be surprised, but I still am). DNA is the nervous system of consciousness. A twisted pair of conductors is one of the best ways to transmit information. Physical DNA molecules aren't the "real thing" though (but neither is this Nebula), they're more symbolic of what this DNA fundamentally is, just like the word Sun is not the same as the Sun itself (despite the fact that people couldn't speak the word Sun without the existence of the Sun).

I think a good figurative analogy is that one strand transmits energy/power and the other receives experience/knowledge (each strand exists virtually relative to the other) - the details of this conversion happen along the axis in the center, though the properties of this interaction can appear fractally mirrored beyond its boundaries. The properties of time arise along its length. It grows and learns over time as its extended and the addition of each new element sends reverberations along its length relative to everything else that already existed within it (so it's not "everything" it's just the experienced components of it).

(I'm making some guesses there, but I don't think they're far off the mark. A lot of things point in that direction and I've found correlations between structures in logic and DNA - the double helix doesn't represent all of its form, but just the form in 3 dimensions. The forces that curl it along its length arise from higher dimensional properties)

[labelwench]

The DNA Nebula...


Help may come from any corner of the physical universe, including deep within our own DNA, or further, into our souls.

The ability to acknowledge this help in everyday life should be exercised and practiced.

That no man or woman is an island, may seem obvious, yet you make a good point, Timeparticle, in saying that we should be more aware and appreciative of the help that supports us everyday.

That help comes from without, by means of family, friends, community and our social order and structures, and it also comes from within.

The power that lays dormant within all of us, to motivate and direct our own being, often goes unrecognized by many, as we journey through life, often feeling overwhelmed by it's flow, so many circumstances seemingly beyond our control.
Perhaps the following piece by Charles Swindell is appropriate:

Charles Swindell

The longer I live
The more I realize the impact of
Attitude on life.
Attitude, to me, is more important
Than the past,
Than education,
Than money,
Than circumstances,
Than failures,
Than success,
Than what other people
Think or say or do.

It is more important than
Appearance,
Giftedness or skill.
It will make or break
An organization,
A school, a home.

The remarkable thing is
We have a choice every day
Regarding the attitude
We will embrace for that day.
We cannot change our past.
We cannot change the fact that
People will act in a certain way.
We cannot change the inevitable.

The only thing we can do
Is play the string we have.
And that is our attitude.

I am convinced that life is
10 percent what happens to me and
90 percent how I react to it.
And so it is with you.

--- By Charles Swindell

[SB_UK]

It's far easier to perform a dull task for a friend than it is to perform a dull task for oneself.

I'd suggest that the increased reward (or gratification) which comes from performing the same task for another is an important reflection of

Help moves us. Help motivates us.

If understood, replicated and bottled
- this'd likely represent a recipe for social harmony.

[timeparticle]

Dropped pen help response...

When I was in grade school, through high school, I had a help response.

I wasn't very popular in school, nor was I disliked. I had very few close friends growing up and my thoughts about most people were generally critical of them as their characteristics tended to be very irritating to me. My affinity for much of my classmates was very low.

However, I remember doing something throughout my school years which always gave me a surprise. I dropped my pencil
or pen on the floor. I would do it accidently. It would usually be out of my reach, but not always. Within ten seconds, someone would pick it up and put it back on my desk, or hand it to me. Even if I really didn't like someone, and the pen went near them, without thinking, the kind response was made in my favor.

In other cases where I wanted help, my classmates would smirk with a callous or sarcastic remark. I felt, if I really stretched, I could have hope for my fellow classmates, because of the dropped pen response.

This encouraged my curiosity to further look into help as a base for interaction with my friends. In my later years of High School, my friend base grew larger. I became friends with different groups, such as the drama kids, the musicians, the intellectuals, the hippies and the jocks. Though, the drama kids were ding- dongs, at times, I identified with them to an extent.

I became intuitive to the needs of others, though, not always choosing to help them, I knew I could if I wanted to. We must all have, deep within ourselves, a great notion to help. We must have been conceived this way as it is within us all. We can choose not to set it forth in our lifestyle, but it seeps through, anyway. Help is inherent.

[labelwench]

I became intuitive to the needs of others, though, not always choosing to help them, I knew I could if I wanted to. We must all have, deep within ourselves, a great notion to help. We must have been conceived this way as it is within us all. We can choose not to set it forth in our lifestyle, but it seeps through, anyway. Help is inherent.
Originally posted by Timeparticle

From conversations with a mentor, I would suggest that you are correct to say we have been conceived this way.

The help response is an expression of the genetics of altruism, where an individual extends their own resources without immediate tangible benefit to oneself beyond the "warm fuzzy feeling".

So, what is the purpose of the "warm fuzzy feeling"? I would hypothesize that the internal reward is there to promote collaboration among us, as a balance for the other areas where we will naturally compete for resources such as status within the group, mates and other tangible benefits for ourselves and our young.

Competition, to a degree, is required, in that it promotes genetic diversity and aids us in meeting the challenges of our environment.

Collaboration is likewise useful in many circumstances, as more perspectives offer more solutions when challenges arise. All reources, material and intellectual can be assessed, prioritized and redeployed to meet current challenges.

Nothing stays the same, no matter how we long for such a security.

I would suggest, that we are at another of the critical times in our evolution, and that an understanding of our 'help' or colaborative response, and how to engage it globally, may be critical for our survival.

Regards,

Labelwench

[timeparticle]

Don't jump in the pit, just throw them a rope- Help

This planet is full of people who, from a better place such as heaven, saw their friends and loved ones suffering, had decided it was better to jump in the pit rather than lend them a rope. If a rescue rope were dropped, would they see it?

Once in the pit, (life on earth), they quickly forgot their help decision from a higher place as they became overwhelmed with same problems and sufferings of their friends and loved ones. If someone from a higher place were lowering down a rope to them, they may not see it.

Men try to help women with their rage, and women try to help men with their grief. Both men and women get emotionally sucked into the pit, suffering from a failure to help each other. They each take on the slings and arrows of the other's debt as a way of help.

The physical universe responds to this downward cycle through help of it's own. The help rope is lowered, whether it is seen or not. If it is not seen, the rope gets larger and more visible. If the people of earth still don't acknowledge the presence of the rope, the rope starts to swing, hitting people in the face to get their attention. A voice from above may yell, "Grab the rope." If the voice is unheard, then the rope shaking increases and the voice gets louder.

Eventually, the planet shakes. The earth abides. The helpless are sent back to school to relearn what they forgot. The rope is raised and the heavens rest.