Nietzsche, Marx, Freud & Darwin

[RascalPuff]

Contemporary literature classes in academia list the four authors in the title of this post (Nietzche, Marx, Darwin & Freud) as having - collective and/or individual - influence(s) on all literature and many other examples of social communication since the turn of the century in 1900, to the present. This does indeed resonate as an applicable generality regarding contemporary literature, controversy and communications in general...

What I don't understand about this otherwise relevant generality is the exclusion of Einstein.

Not only, after all, did/does he have a tremendous impact on physical science in particular, but the academic considerations of the world in general, certainly including psychology, politics and, of course, philosophy.

He was, for example, a renowned pacifist and a man of letters, having correspondence with many distinguished contemporaries including Bertrand Russell. Yet, in my own direct experience with 'Contemporary Literature' classrooms and agendas, Einstein is excluded from the list of major influences on 'the Modern Age'. Has he been added to this formal list of influences on contemporary thought and living without my knowledge, or am I mistaken in the opinion that he belongs on the list of distinguished persons, but has for some reason been - and remains - excluded? Please proffer your thoughts on this consideration.

Best regards,
- RP

[Profpat]

Hi RP;

For what it's worth my thoughts are you have a philosopher, economist and two "soft" scientist. This means anybody can through in their 2 cents worth. Einstein was the only "hard" scientist and therefore you were on ground that could easily be challenged, and proven wrong.

Best,

Pat

[labelwench]

Here is a reference that includes Einstein yet excludes Nietzsche. They were all men of 'letters' in more ways than one, and the circle and patterns of their correspondence has been of some consideration.

I didn't fully make up the title of this post, it came from Northwestern University, a research report for media. Their title is "How Would Einstein Use E-mail?". They believe that we are not as different from Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin after all, at least when it comes to patterns of correspondence! I had to take this piece of research serious because it is published in the prestigious Science Journal. And also the National Science Foundation supported the research.

I found their method very interesting and unusual because they examined extensive letter correspondence records of 16 famous writers, performers, politicians and scientists, including Einstein, Darwin, Sigmund Freud, Karl Marx, and Ernest Hemingway, and found that the 16 individuals sent letters randomly but in cycles. They said "No matter what their profession, all the letter writers behaved the same way. They adhered to a circadian cycle; they tended to write a number of letters at one sitting, which is more efficient; and when they wrote had more to do with chance and circumstances than a rational approach of writing the most important letter first."

http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=135661

[labelwench]

A quick look at the citizenry of the gentlemen mentioned reveals Nietzsche and Marx to be German, Freud as Jewish-Austrian, and Darwin as English.

Albert Einstein is shown by Wiki as being a German-born Swiss-American.

I am wondering if the influence of the American culture in such a pedigree may have been a factor in both his opportunities/accomplishments, and how the man and his works are viewed by the rest of the world?

[Profpat]

Nietzsche, Freud, and Marx were atheist, Darwin was a theist and Einstein was a theist, deist, pantheist?

I wonder if that made a difference?

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Nietzsche, Freud, and Marx were atheist, Darwin was a theist and Einstein was a theist, deist, pantheist?

I wonder if that made a difference?

Yeah, three went to hell, and two went to heaven, ha Pat...? Theist, deist, pantheist...? Don't you know...? Atheist all...!

[Profpat]

"I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details."



"I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice."
"God is subtle but he is not malicious."
"Weakness of attitude becomes weakness of character."

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."

"God does not care about our mathematical difficulties. He integrates empirically."

All from Einstein, quite an atheist I would say. I already posted Darwins admission that he was a theist in his Autobiography.

Why do you feel the need to LIE Lloyd. I know you're nasty and bullying attitude is an attempt to get attention because you have nothing positive to offer and so you go to the negative in a feeble way to be noticed. You lie, are dishonest, rewrite history, and come up with new definitions to prove your lies.

This is why I truly pity you because you have no life other than toequest and you so desperately need to be noticed because my guess is that you are a very lonely and pathetic person.

To review your atheist; Nietzsche was a certifiable mad man, who would run around naked saying he was God while eating his own feces. I bet you can relate to him.

Marx by your own admission had mental problems, Freud thought everything was a penis. There you have it Lloyd, your atheist, and you are in excellent company. These are the three YOU condemned to hell. Nice touch on your part LLoyd. Rather their hell, like yours, is here on Earth.

Einstein and Darwin were theist, and Spinoza in his own words declared he was NOT an atheist.

But continue your lies Lloyd because my fiendish friend that is all you have left.

And so I'll leave you to yourself and continue to pity such a pathetic and tormented creature as yourself.

Truly I hope somehow you will be able to achieve happiness for the remainder of your life.

Best,

Pat

[melanie]

And so I'll leave you to yourself and continue to pity such a pathetic and tormented creature as yourself.

'' When dealing with people, remember you are not dealing with creatures of logic, but creatures of emotion. ''


Quotes for Folks......


'' 
Feelings are much like waves, we can't stop them from coming but we can choose which one to surf. ''

[Profpat]

Truth hurts Lloyd, lies don't .

I can appreciate why you are most anxious to have a moderator delete the truth about yourself.

Best,

Pat

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Truth hurts Lloyd, lies don't .

I can appreciate why you are most anxious to have a moderator delete the truth about yourself.

Best, Pat

Lame, ain't ya Pat, that you can't even tell the difference between truth and lies...?

I have no interest in my or your emotions, Pat__Everybody's got that stupidity, equally...