Why God is Impossible

[melanie]

God Is Impossible: A Final Proof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQm-vMMDe-E



We do say that people “create” things, but, indeed, no one creates anything. You’re confusing “creation” with “transformation.” Transformation takes place when already existing elements are combined to generate new structures. Transformations produced by humans are not proof of something coming into existence; but, rather, proof that man has a unique ability to transform elements, which already exist, into entirely new forms.

From nothingness only nothing is possible, which is why no “so called” creator has ever created anything, you really were born of star stuff, and that big powerful GOD we’ve always been told is up there in the sky glairing down at us is no more real than those flying rabbits on Pluto.

Lynne Yreva Atwater Ph.D

http://godgone.com/conclusion.php

[austintorn@aol.com]

It’s a very simplistic move of only one level to create God in one’s imagination as the reason for life and all, and not a good level move at all, for then one must fool even one’s self by then exchanging horses in mid stream since this Life that begot life is even all the more the problem of what could not be accepted in the first place. It is even infinitely worse. Should they then use LIFE as the basis for Life which made life?

Can the believers even know this? No, for they just went to another [wrong] level and halted there. Yes, they stopped, now satisfied with an even larger dilemma. This is called begging the question.

Can they realize it? No, for they halted the proceedings and closed the case before it could be opened, stopping dead in the water.

What to do? Ignore them, for they are stuck fast and can’t escape.

[melanie]

If a God exists where did God come from - is like asking where did everything that makes up the universe come from?
It is an un-answerable question.
As for a special deity creating it all - there's no evidence for any 'creator being'
The stuff from which the universe is made - was around long before we appeared, so the idea of a universe full of stars, planets, worlds creatures etc.. being created by a 'creator being' is pure fantasy.

We must ask where did God the creator come from and how did he bring himself into existence?
What caused the beginning of creation? if there was no one there to observe it?

Logically, something can't both "be" and "not be" at the same time.
One can't create oneself - that would require you to "be" in order to perform the action, at the same time you "not be" since you haven't yet begun to exist.

So what's the purpose of our life ? that's easy, the periodic extinction of various earthly creatures will tell you everything you need to know.
Also, why are we here in the first place is a good question ? - the answer would probably be very simple - we are here for the same reason cockroaches are here.

[melanie]

What to do? Ignore them, for they are stuck fast and can’t escape.

That's what they do too - they ignore anything that refutes their own self-claimed knowing.

Some claim to know God and are so certain of his existence - but that would be the same as saying ....they know where all the stuff in the universe came from. [Impossible]

When the God of their belief is rebuffed, they have no counterclaim. Hence why they disappear or fail to discuss.

While believers may find comfort in being faithful to impossibilities, there is no greater satisfaction than a clear mind.
While believers choose to serve an impossible God.

I choose reality = Enlightenment & Freedom Unlimited = Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

[jag]

God Is Impossible: A Final Proof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQm-vMMDe-E


From nothingness only nothing is possible, which is why no “so called” creator has ever created anything, you really were born of star stuff, and that big powerful GOD we’ve always been told is up there in the sky glairing down at us is no more real than those flying rabbits on Pluto.

Lynne Yreva Atwater Ph.D

http://godgone.com/conclusion.php

Where did the star stuff come from?

'Creation is forever beyond the full comprehension of material and finite beings', so, what seem to be contradictions are merely, natural, incomplete understandings of infinite concepts. 'It is inconceivable that a quantitative infinity could ever be completely realized in finality.'

God/creation cannot be impossible only unknowable.

jag

[melanie]

Where did the star stuff come from?

Unknowable.

God/creation cannot be impossible only unknowable.

That which is impossible to know cannot exist? - Unless we have a complete knowledge of the universe, we must admit the possibility?

[austintorn@aol.com]

Creation, and a Creator never happened. They can't, for the basis of the elemental stuff, or the stuff itself, must be eternal. And, no, it's not a composite, complex, even infinite Being, for that would not be elemental, but of composition. And what is the only source? Nothing.

[RascalPuff]

God Is Impossible: A Final Proof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQm-vMMDe-E



We do say that people “create” things, but, indeed, no one creates anything. You’re confusing “creation” with “transformation.” Transformation takes place when already existing elements are combined to generate new structures. Transformations produced by humans are not proof of something coming into existence; but, rather, proof that man has a unique ability to transform elements, which already exist, into entirely new forms.

From nothingness only nothing is possible, which is why no “so called” creator has ever created anything, you really were born of star stuff, and that big powerful GOD we’ve always been told is up there in the sky glairing down at us is no more real than those flying rabbits on Pluto.

Lynne Yreva Atwater Ph.D

http://godgone.com/conclusion.php

Is not the presupposition of a 'beginning', requisite to the featured consideration?

In an existential state without the presumptuous anthropomorphic demand for a 'beginning and ending': is not the ponderous 'problem' rendered null & void? Is not 'infinity' without beginning or end, microcosmically and macrocosmically?

[melanie]

"I wonder if other dogs think poodles are members of a weird religious cult."


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"Pathetic fallacy: the attribution of human emotions or characteristics to inanimate objects or to nature."


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"You cannot reason people out of positions they didn't reason themselves into."


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"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."

[SteveA]

Thanks for the quotes, Melanie. Along similar lines as the 3rd one, it's easy to learn - unlearning requires effort.