[AntonioLao]

Gravity is not a force of the future since it pulls everything backward in time. The stronger it is the shorter is the distance between its center and the object being pulled. It is a central force, which allows a straight line connection between relative centers and relative perimeters.

However, all relative perimeters are receding farther away from their relative past. The relative past (RP) of earthlings is the center of the earth. RP of all planets in the solar system is the center of the sun. RP of all our stars is the center of the Milky Way galaxy. RP of the Local Group is the opposite center of Virgo supercluster. RP of all superclusters is the center of the big bang.

[mkirkpatrick]

You have made some excellent points Antonio,re gravity,is it a force of the past,
well maybe! But past what!Before now,after now,or a later now?Are we moving
from one point,or centre,and enroute towards another point or centre,that is the question.If we all move in a spiral formation we will meet up with all the
rest of the universe and be able to shake hands (hopefully)before we all
dis-appear down a rather large Gravity-well?



kind regards michael.

[AntonioLao]

When we move from here to there, we are actually traveling backward in time. So, when we reach our destinations, we reached them from a vantage point of the past not the future. We can only move backward in time and space not forward in time and space.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao When we move from here to there, we are actually traveling backward in time. So, when we reach our destinations, we reached them from a vantage point of the past not the future. We can only move backward in time and space not forward in time and space.

This post is very confusing and goes too much against all common sense. Can you explain it more extensivelly and clearlly?

And anyway, what determines that you move in a direction in any dimension (either time or space)? Nothing, because it's RELATIVE.

[AntonioLao]

I am working on a graphical description of this idea. Post it asap.

[AntonioLao]

This image shows the time evolution of two space separated events.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao This image shows the time evolution of two space separated events.

But in order to the once earlier to be in later times must pass, forward, and they move forward.

[Mr. Nobody]

The faster one moves in relation to another person, the faster this person moves through space and slower through time. Movement through space slows movement through time.
Gravity causes motion.
Gravity slows time.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Mr. Nobody The faster one moves in relation to another person, the faster this person moves through space and slower through time. Movement through space slows movement through time. Gravity causes motion. Gravity slows time.

Yes, but it doesn't mean that time get's negative, it means it get's smaller and smaller in going forward, but in going forward.

Imagen that you are moving at spatial speed Ss, well, at spatial speed Ss, you are moving in time speed Ts. If Ss goes biggern, then Ts goes slower. But In order for Ts to be negative, i.e. backwards, Ss must be nagtive, i.e. going backwards. And up to what I know space can't be negative.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao When we move from here to there, we are actually traveling backward in time. So, when we reach our destinations, we reached them from a vantage point of the past not the future. We can only move backward in time and space not forward in time and space.

Antonio.
I had a flash of re-cognision when seeing this post,yes weare moving back.but to where.The idea is very simple,that our inner-core,call it spirit,is achored in
Be-fore(universe was manifested)the Outer-core is achored in this Now,and we
are returning to Before,time and space only exist in this Now!!It does Not exist
in the Be-fore!!Can you Antonio access a design that would express this idea!
I was imagining a dot(much like the supposed singularity)opening up forming
a universal spiral extending for aeons,then returning tothe point,(before)If an
onlooker was witnessing this from outside of the now,and was watching in the
Be-fore,we would appear almost Frozen-like movement of light would be like
a snails pace!To this onlooker in the be-fore it has all been done and dusted,to
us we have to wait aeons to Catch up?


kind regardsmichael.