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    Question Does the nucleus have cuvature

    I am still newto all this stuff still .

    why can't we apply the theory of space time curvature to explain the atomic structure. isn't the nucleus massive then the tiny fluctuation in the space time may be affecting the aths of electrons(electrons are so many times lighter than nucleus)why dont we do so can anybody explain.


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    We explain the interaction among the nucleus and the nucleus to the electrons with two forces: the strong nuclear force and the weak nuclear force. The strong nuclear force is the force among mesons, among baryons, and between mesons and baryons. The weak nuclear force is the force among quarks, among leptons, and between quarks and leptons. The strong nuclear force is madiated by gluons. The weak nuclear force is mediated by W+, W- an Zo bosons. Protons and neutrons are baryons (they are made of 3 quarks: proton is 2 quarks up and 1 quark down, and neutron is 2 quarks down and 1 quark up. The charge of a quark up (2/3) is double the charge of a quark down (1/3)). The gravitational (space-time curvature) attraction that the nucleus produces is much weaker than these two forces, specially at subatomic distances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohan.C
    I am still newto all this stuff still .

    why can't we apply the theory of space time curvature to explain the atomic structure. isn't the nucleus massive then the tiny fluctuation in the space time may be affecting the aths of electrons(electrons are so many times lighter than nucleus)why dont we do so can anybody explain.
    Because it is not
    understood,and the basic premise is wrong!Curvature exists,but "space time"
    what the hell is "that",spacetime is a piece of fiction,which science has unfortunatly bought into.Hence "they" cannot find a solution to the fictional
    problem,because it has no bearing on reality?


    kindest regards michael.
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    The concept of the atom being a ball with electrons being tiny balls spinning around it is a conceptualization used to further our understanding. That is a good question though- are atomic items actually spherical?

    If you look at images of a scanning tunneling microscope, they look like this:

    http://www.physics.purdue.edu/nanophys/images/mos2.jpg

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.physics.purdue.edu/nanophys/images/mos2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.physics.purdue.edu/nanophys/stm.html&h=425&w=425&sz=41&tbnid=6xLfFhZ5uC6ZUM:&t bnh=122&tbnw=122&hl=en&start=63&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dscanning%2Btunneling%2Bmicroscope%2Bi mage%26start%3D60%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%2 6sa%3DN

    The atoms look like ridges, but this is due to the technology to some degree. So the shape is in the eye of the beholder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by <<>>
    We explain the interaction among the nucleus and the nucleus to the electrons with two forces: the strong nuclear force and the weak nuclear force. The strong nuclear force is the force among mesons, among baryons, and between mesons and baryons. The weak nuclear force is the force among quarks, among leptons, and between quarks and leptons. The strong nuclear force is madiated by gluons. The weak nuclear force is mediated by W+, W- an Zo bosons. Protons and neutrons are baryons (they are made of 3 quarks: proton is 2 quarks up and 1 quark down, and neutron is 2 quarks down and 1 quark up. The charge of a quark up (2/3) is double the charge of a quark down (1/3)). The gravitational (space-time curvature) attraction that the nucleus produces is much weaker than these two forces, specially at subatomic distances.
    Thanks Guille that was really helpful i got a bit carried away at first


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    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
    Because it is not
    understood,and the basic premise is wrong!Curvature exists,but "space time"
    what the hell is "that",spacetime is a piece of fiction,which science has unfortunatly bought into.Hence "they" cannot find a solution to the fictional
    problem,because it has no bearing on reality?


    kindest regards michael.
    Michael, U say curvature exists and that space time is fictional. What the hell is the curvature then. According to you


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohan.C
    Michael, U say curvature exists and that space time is fictional. What the hell is the curvature then. According to you
    Well
    the curvature is the Spin-effect of this relative universe!This all phenomal
    universe,is contained within the "spin cycle",from the sub-atomic to the
    rotation of galaxies,all "things" within this expression of form.and formless
    by the way,are endlessly in motion,andthat motion obeys the first law of
    universal economy,which is,circular,and is called a Vortex!

    kindest regardsmichael.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
    Well
    the curvature is the Spin-effect of this relative universe!This all phenomal
    universe,is contained within the "spin cycle",from the sub-atomic to the
    rotation of galaxies,all "things" within this expression of form.and formless
    by the way,are endlessly in motion,andthat motion obeys the first law of
    universal economy,which is,circular,and is called a Vortex!

    kindest regardsmichael.
    Isn't motion relative. May be they are rest but we see them in motion could that be it.


 

 

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