[AntonioLao]

Beyond the prima facie of special and general relativity, the strongest implication is that primary force or absolute motion does not exist. To say that it exists is tantamount to a direct refutation of both theories. On the other hand, quantum mechanics asserts the invincibility of a local infinitesimal quantum of action which is intimately connected to Planck’s constant. This constant bears witness to the indestructible local angular motion equivalent to the conservation of angular momentum. For the moment, it is suggested that this angular motion is the same as a local circular absolute acceleration (a) whose inner product with the local metric (r) is just the square of light speed (c), a × r = c².

[mkirkpatrick]

What about primary thought Antonio?And prehaps absolute motionlessness?
And further maybe the theories are wrong Antonio!

Just a thought along the road of expression!

regrds michael.

[dleviwing]

Unlike the reference to “absolute motion” made by Einstein that was referring to our ability to measure motion, there exists a fixed quantity of motion sustained by all physical systems. The only way energy can be conserved in a system is if the motion of that system is conserved. In Relativity, we are limited to performing measurements as if absolute motion were equivalent to 2c and thus a conversion of potential energy (mass) to radiation energy is a change of 2c of uniform motion to 2c of wave motion (expansion) or c². This does not infer that matter itself has been annihilated for it is also conserved. Quantum Physics is not limited to the 2c value for absolute motion and thus presents a clearer picture of the interactions of physical substance.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao Beyond the prima facie of special and general relativity, the strongest implication is that primary force or absolute motion does not exist. To say that it exists is tantamount to a direct refutation of both theories. On the other hand, quantum mechanics asserts the invincibility of a local infinitesimal quantum of action which is intimately connected to Planck’s constant. This constant bears witness to the indestructible local angular motion equivalent to the conservation of angular momentum. For the moment, it is suggested that this angular motion is the same as a local circular absolute acceleration (a) whose inner product with the local metric (r) is just the square of light speed (c), a × r = c².

You are absolutely correct there Antonio,primal force or absolute motion,do not exist,
how could they? But relative force and motion does!Therein lies the solution,provided
you see the dis-connected connection?


regards michael.

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick primal force or absolute motion,do not exist, how could they?

Contrary to your statement, I'm trying to prove that they do exist. I still don't have the concrete proofs at this time.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao Contrary to your statement, I'm trying to prove that they do exist. I still don't have the concrete proofs at this time.

They do exist in relativity Antonio,in manifested potentuality,but not in unmanifested
potentuality.

If you do manage to prove otherwise,i will eat my hat,and also extend your life span by
an extra 15 years? That sound right to you,Antonio??


regards michael.

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick They do exist in relativity

They don't exist both in Einstein's relativities and quantum mechanics. The excuses given are respectively the curvature of spacetime and the uncertainty principle.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao They don't exist both in Einstein's relativities and quantum mechanics. The excuses given are respectively the curvature of spacetime and the uncertainty principle.

That may very well be the case Antonio,but those two ideas are not relative to the
partial reality that gives us the illusion of motion.Motion by its very action,implies that
there is SOME-WHERE to GO!When you are in an Absolute state and are ubiquitous
how could you possibly move?Where in Gods name would you move to,where you were
not already 100% there already?All motion is illusion,and plays no part whatsoever in
Absolute Reality.


regards michael.

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Motion by its very action,implies that there is SOME-WHERE to GO!

Going somewhere requires the expenditure of energy. However if the natural tendency is to minimize this expenditure then it is better not to move at all.

[kwich99]

I will say that first that motion creates time and space in any dimension.
Without it nothing exsists even in unlawful physics
Gravity being the opposite of non exsistanse gives a strong clue to what motion is atracted to or repelled from
You have to have something for nothing to exsist or vicea versa
therefore you have motion
inner,outer,multi dimensional space to exsist you have to have the opposite
which in itself is atraction. Then creates motion which creates space.
just the motion of opposite would seem to be enough to create any exsistance in any dimension itself.
no math
no magical force
no begining
no end
It works
There is no energy to be opposing
there is energy bei8ng created