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    Can something occur without the passage of time? Can motion exist without time interval? Can virtual displacement exist? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_displacement Can virtual work exist? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_work These exist within the study of advanced analytical mechanics. Now, it can also be said that virtual energy exists. This is an assumption. If there are physical constraints virtual energy becomes negative energy. It is analogous to someone’s negative bank account balance, where and when the bank acting as the physical constraint. The bank can choose to extend or to deny more and more credits increasing the potential of accumulating negative debt. However, the account holder is spending in a positive sense and the more is spent the more negative the account becomes. Positive and negative seem to align directly proportional. Unfortunately, the bank charges interest for all unpaid debt. It is reasonable that the negative energy continue to increase regardless whether positive energy is spent or not. Nevertheless, when all physical constraints are removed the negative energy becomes pure virtual energy.

    The total virtual energy of the universe is a constant. On the other hand positive and negative energy vary according to the imposed physical constraints. In the real world, this negative energy appears as relative potential energy, while the positive energy appears as relative kinetic energy.
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    Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²

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    Antonio another very interesting thread starter.You asked can something occur without
    the passage of time?The answer to that Antonio is both yes and no!Yes in the relative
    phase,as understanding is limited,and confined within false parameters,and no when in
    the absolute phase,because here "all is ubiquitous" and occurances are absolutely
    impossible,here nothing "ever" happens,it just IS!
    You also posed the question,"can motion exist without time interval"?Again the answer is
    yes and no!
    Yes in the relative sense,as in this phase,which seems very real,but is actually an illusion
    there is motion,and the "appearance" of a time interval.

    And no in the absolute phase,as motion cannot and does not exist here!Again the very
    idea is absurd Antonio if one gives the idea a little thought,motion "implies" a place to
    motion too;to move to,or towards,but if you are ubiquitous and totally all in all,where
    the hell could you possibly go,that you were not already present at?????

    Yout last questionwas "can virtual work exist?Yes it can! I will say no more on this one
    at present.

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    Re: virtual energy

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
    "can virtual work exist?Yes it can!
    Some people prefer to let others do all the works. That is why not all of us can be geniuses.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao View Post
    Some people prefer to let others do all the works. That is why not all of us can be geniuses.
    Absolutely right there Antonio,we do all the work,and someone else gets knighted
    for it?


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