hot-push cold-pull

[AntonioLao]

Or is it hot-pull cold-push? The caption of Figure 31 of Feynman’s QED partly reads as follow “Light goes faster through warm air than through cool air.” This was his explanation for one of the causes of mirage. In another perspective, considering air density, warm air is less dense than cool air. Logically, common sense would suggest that light goes faster in a medium of least density. If the vacuum is a medium for empty spacetime (quantum mechanics proves that empty spacetime does not exist), then its mass density is practically zero while its temperature for the present epoch is at about 3 degrees above absolute zero. Therefore, the measured speed of light in vacuum is at an absolute minimum. This suggests that the speed of light in the interior of all stars could be superluminal by assuming that speed is directly proportional to temperature and inversely proportional to density. With respect to the big bang theory, it suggests that primordial light must also be superluminal. Then how could the present epoch also observed superluminal expansion?

[mkirkpatrick]

Thats a good question Antonio,prehaps we see light at a lower frequency,and fail to grasp
that sound is light at a snails pace,visible light is seen at 186.000 mls per sec,and that
thought is the super luminal,light at a much higher frequency.

Unless all universal phenomena can be unitied and seen as one,then real analysis will
fail.sound,light,thought,are all one of the same thing,their only difference is frequency
and vibrational rate,thats all.


regards michael.

[AntonioLao]

sound,light,thought,are all one of the same thing,their only difference is frequency and vibrational rate,thats all.

Basically, there should conceivably be only two distinct types of vibration, spatial (space) and temporal (time). When combined the result is spacetime vibration. I am working on its quantization.

[baudrunner]

You have your work cut out for you, Antonio. Maybe I can help by offering a reasonable starting point for you to describe Feynman's observation using numbers, which I know you like to do.

For my part, I understand that light doesn't even exist, that it is an interpretation of the occipital cortex which reduces the varying intensities and frequencies of the EM waves received by the retina into contrasting image representations in our minds, based on bio-electronic signals travelling through the optic nerve to that part of the brain. Eyes don't see, they are merely EM wave receivers/detectors. Our retinas work on the same principal as opto-electronic photo-detectors. So light doesn't exist and something that doesn't exist doesn't travel anywhere.

Feynman believes that photons fly across the Universe, so he's out of the picture as far as I'm concerned, since these photons also don't exist. They can only be described as a quantifiable energy representing the amount required to effect a transitional change in the energy level of an electron. Since electrons don't jump energy levels during the process of propagation of EM waves in the visible range of the optical spectrum, and most of the rest of that spectrum too as a matter of fact, photo quanta don't even play a part. He doesn't seem to understand the simple relationship between two adjacent components - atoms, molecules, what have you - in a medium through which EM waves propagate, and that is the effect of like polar repulsion. Simply put, agitation of a particle in a medium affects the otherwise stable state of the adjacent particle and so on until they cross the distance to our eyes, where they affect the receptors on our retinas. The intensity of direct line-of-sight light source EM waves can damage these sensitive optical instruments of ours.

Which leads to the conclusion that EM waves actually propagate over larger distances where the medium is extremely sparse in component particles for a given time frame, even though the rate of atomic interaction is essentially the same, and that is correct. Now, a hot environment can affect this rate because of the dimensional (size) relationship between atomic particles and the microwave frequencies which generate this heat in the atom. This is another quantum threshold phenomenon. The size of atoms fall into a range from so many angstroms in hydrogen or helium to so many angstroms in the heavier elements, and resonant factors at certain frequencies can obstruct the rate of atomic interaction such that EM wave propagation can be observed to slow down because they are somewhat impeded by the dominance of the mw frequencies.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

So Baud, you mean when I drive my Hummer down the road, I'm actually not moving___what a bummer! Anyone for real science...? Baud, micro-state physics does not describe macro-state physics...

regards,

You have your work cut out for you, Antonio. Maybe I can help by offering a reasonable starting point for you to describe Feynman's observation using numbers, which I know you like to do.

For my part, I understand that light doesn't even exist, that it is an interpretation of the occipital cortex which reduces the varying intensities and frequencies of the EM waves received by the retina into contrasting image representations in our minds, based on bio-electronic signals travelling through the optic nerve to that part of the brain. Eyes don't see, they are merely EM wave receivers/detectors. Our retinas work on the same principal as opto-electronic photo-detectors. So light doesn't exist and something that doesn't exist doesn't travel anywhere.

Feynman believes that photons fly across the Universe, so he's out of the picture as far as I'm concerned, since these photons also don't exist. They can only be described as a quantifiable energy representing the amount required to effect a transitional change in the energy level of an electron. Since electrons don't jump energy levels during the process of propagation of EM waves in the visible range of the optical spectrum, and most of the rest of that spectrum too as a matter of fact, photo quanta don't even play a part. He doesn't seem to understand the simple relationship between two adjacent components - atoms, molecules, what have you - in a medium through which EM waves propagate, and that is the effect of like polar repulsion. Simply put, agitation of a particle in a medium affects the otherwise stable state of the adjacent particle and so on until they cross the distance to our eyes, where they affect the receptors on our retinas. The intensity of direct line-of-sight light source EM waves can damage these sensitive optical instruments of ours.

Which leads to the conclusion that EM waves actually propagate over larger distances where the medium is extremely sparse in component particles for a given time frame, even though the rate of atomic interaction is essentially the same, and that is correct. Now, a hot environment can affect this rate because of the dimensional (size) relationship between atomic particles and the microwave frequencies which generate this heat in the atom. This is another quantum threshold phenomenon. The size of atoms fall into a range from so many angstroms in hydrogen or helium to so many angstroms in the heavier elements, and resonant factors at certain frequencies can obstruct the rate of atomic interaction such that EM wave propagation can be observed to slow down because they are somewhat impeded by the dominance of the mw frequencies.

[baudrunner]

LLoyd,

(You know, for a moment, I forgot whether we spell your name with two L's or two d's. Funny..)

You have committed some silly errors of omission, namely, you assume that "light" has mass and also that your Hummer is merely an EM wave. Or maybe you are just showing off that you have one. So. You can't park your car where I can park mine. I get way better mileage, and it would only cost me about $150.00 Cn to replace my cracked windshield, if I felt like replacing it. I don't remember the last time I changed the oil, for all I know the crankcase is near empty, but it doesn't matter because it's a Mercury Topaz anyway. I have $56 that I accumulated on my Esso extra card that will keep me in gas for the rest of the winter. You spend that much in a week! Then again, you could drive the right front wheel over a land mine and not get hurt. Of course, if I did that I might come back to haunt you.

regards, old friend

baud

[Lloyd Gillespie]

You have committed some silly errors of omission, namely, you assume that "light" has mass and also that your Hummer is merely an EM wave.

regards, old friend
baud

No, neither___Baud. I thought you were assuming both...

regards,

[AntonioLao]

Feynman believes that photons fly across the Universe

Thanks for your descriptive physics about the photon. I also think that photon is just a composite of something more fundamental such as local infinitesimal absolute acceleration of both clockwise and counterclockwise rotations.