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    slaying a cyclone

    The destructive forces of cyclones (e.g. hurricanes, tornadoes, and typhoons) have been fearfully respected over generations of worldwide human establishments. In spite of their deadly power no dragonslayer had ever came forward voluntarily killing on of these climatic monsters. Most efforts have been toward setting warning systems and other preventive and defensive measures.

    Fortunately, for every Goliath there is a David. For every Achilles there is a vulnerable heel spot. For every problem there is a solver. For every chain there is a weakest link. And the belief that unlike mathematical problems which could remain unsolved forever, physical problems are mostly solvable. What is needed is just the willingness to take up the particular challenge.

    Simplistically speaking, taming a gigantic cyclone is just as simple as stopping the onset of quantum turbulence of tiny water molecules, H2O, two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom. This molecule has a single bonded angle of 104.5°. If this angle is pointing upward for most molecules then rotational energy from each individual angular momentum can be added resulting in the twisting power of a cyclone. If the angles are mostly pointing downward then no rotational energy is formed. How does one accomplish this downward inversion? One possible solution is to electrify the region with negative electricity. Negative electricity occurs naturally from blanketing CO2 gas over vegetations. This could be one of the reasons why cyclones do not form over dense forest. The double bonded angle of CO2 is linear, 180° and diluting water vapor with CO2 will surely dampen the energy derived from molecular rotations. Compounds of CO2 are used as fire extinguishers. In this case, they can also serve as cyclones slayers.
    Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²

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    So maybe the way of slaying the tempest is to have giant co2 extinguishers fitted on
    Boing 707s and launched at the merest hint of a cyclonic uprising.



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    Re: slaying a cyclone

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
    So maybe the way of slaying the tempest is to have giant co2 extinguishers fitted on Boing 707s and launched at the merest hint of a cyclonic uprising.
    It might work but still limited by the law of dispersion of ideal or real gases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao View Post
    It might work but still limited by the law of dispersion of ideal or real gases.
    Its the trying that does it,prehaps we need widen the gas dispersal arrangements!



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    Re: slaying a cyclone

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick
    we need widen the gas dispersal arrangements
    This seems to be limited by the speed of sound in the inhomogeneous atmospheric medium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao View Post
    This seems to be limited by the speed of sound in the inhomogeneous atmospheric medium.
    That seems to be the case,but is there a way around this?



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    Re: slaying a cyclone

    Now this is just one of my hairbrained ideas. But it is based on real physics. One of the observations noted with tornadoes is that they produce a characteristic sound. Now it is my contention that this sound wave that is heard, is directly related to the diameter of the funnel cloud. No one really knows just why the funnel rotates. But we could construct a device that would generate rotating sound waves. If a counter rotating sound wave of the same diameter as a funnel cloud were to interfere with the funnel cloud, I am speculating that the funnel cloud may be caused to dissipate. So this may be a way to slay the smaller cousin to the cyclone and of course lead to ideas on how to disrupt the bigger variety.

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    Re: slaying a cyclone

    Quote Originally Posted by Einstein
    So this may be a way to slay the smaller cousin
    This could be tried out in the lab at a reduced scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao View Post
    This could be tried out in the lab at a reduced scale.

    Its worth looking at then?



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    Re: slaying a cyclone

    mkirkpatrick

    Its worth looking at then?
    For a one foot diameter tornado in the lab, the sound frequency would be 1087Hz. Two synchronized sound emitters positioned orthogonal to each other are aimed at a central location. One of the emitters will have to be moved 1/4 wavelength toward or away from the central location to control the rotational direction. The interference pattern of the two waves will produce the rotating sound wave. But I never tried this out. Since sound waves are longitudinal, the rotating wave should push the air in a circle. Based on my theoretical understanding of wave phenomena, I believe this should work.

 

 
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