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is it four families boson affairs? - 03-20-2007, 12:39 PM

At low energy experiments, gauge bosons as carriers of fundamental forces come in four families: the gluon family, the photon family, the W± and Z° family, and the graviton family. At high energy experiments, the photon family is combined with the W± and Z° family into an electroweak family; it seems that the classification of gauge bosons is now also a three family’s affair. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_boson


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Smile Re: is it four families boson affairs? - 03-20-2007, 01:28 PM

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At low energy experiments, gauge bosons as carriers of fundamental forces come in four families: the gluon family, the photon family, the W± and Z° family, and the graviton family. At high energy experiments, the photon family is combined with the W± and Z° family into an electroweak family; it seems that the classification of gauge bosons is now also a three family’s affair. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_boson

Would these four families have dimensional significance,as in,four dimensional expression
of this physical universe,time being the forth one?



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Re: is it four families boson affairs? - 03-20-2007, 01:41 PM

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QED, QCD, and other quantum field theories are all coughed in Feynman spacetime diagrams. These are implicitly four dimensional since two of the space dimension are suppressed but their full descriptions can be found in Feynman path integral equations using the Lagrangian formalism of minimum energy. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_integral_formulation


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QED, QCD, and other quantum field theories are all coughed in Feynman spacetime diagrams. These are implicitly four dimensional since two of the space dimension are suppressed but their full descriptions can be found in Feynman path integral equations using the Lagrangian formalism of minimum energy. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_integral_formulation

Thanks for the link.What is the underlying force here that permits the family
coherent stability?



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Re: is it four families boson affairs? - 03-20-2007, 02:08 PM

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The force is implied into the Lagrangian energy equations. But Lagrangian energy as difference of kinetic and potential is just first power of energy However Dirac relativistic equation is square of energy but only applicable for electrons and positrons. I'm not following this formalism very well. The quantized space of hadamard matrices are much simpler from my own perspective since it could derive the mass ratio of proton over the electron from first principle.


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The force is implied into the Lagrangian energy equations. But Lagrangian energy as difference of kinetic and potential is just first power of energy However Dirac relativistic equation is square of energy but only applicable for electrons and positrons. I'm not following this formalism very well. The quantized space of hadamard matrices are much simpler from my own perspective since it could derive the mass ratio of proton over the electron from first principle.

Ok although the trail is narrowing?



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Re: is it four families boson affairs? - 03-21-2007, 03:04 PM

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Ok although the trail is narrowing?
Asymptotically, perhaps but never crossing or back trailing?


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Asymptotically, perhaps but never crossing or back trailing?

That itself narrows it down?





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Re: is it four families boson affairs? - 03-22-2007, 01:57 PM

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That itself narrows it down?
But the smallest of the five exceptional simple Lie groups would be G2 see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G2_%28mathematics%29 This is a rank matrix.


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Smile Re: is it four families boson affairs? - 03-22-2007, 02:18 PM

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But the smallest of the five exceptional simple Lie groups would be G2 see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G2_%28mathematics%29 This is a rank matrix.

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