Isaac's Apple in Albert's elevator. (Which way is up?)

RascalPuff

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Elicits a question: If we are to seriously consider gravity as a repelling force, how might it be meaningfully construed as such? That is to say, how do we apply Newton's Gravitational Alternative, combined with Einstein's General Principle, to correspond with the anthropomorphic Gravitational Experience?

We will return to this question and its answer by way of a brief comparative investigation of what relationship if any exists between Einstein's concept of gravity, derived from the General Theory Of Relativity, and Einstein's concept of the 4th Dimension, which is also, as we shall see, more than coincidentally derived from the General Theory Of Relativity.

A brief review the definition of dimensions as applied to the Three recognized Dimensions of Space, follows. Let it be qualified firstly that, in colloquial language, the term 'dimensions' may be correctly applied to any number of descriptions, such as 'dimensions' of music or thought or color for example. But, in physics there is only one definition for dimensions. Which we will reconsider, immediately after the following statement concerning contemporary academic physics and its representative posturing toward the subject of the (Einstein's) allegedly 'acknowledged' *4th Dimension (*of 'time and motion').

Mathematicians and physicists are of the consensus agreement that, when the definition of the 4th Dimension is applied to Reality-At-Large as Einstein proved it is in fact, then one automatically departs the realm of conscious experience and comprehensibility. This is the reason for example, that in one renowned case the reputedly omniscient, ever-present yet conceptually elusive 4th Dimension was professionally referenced as, 'a mathematical abstraction on anyone's wrist-watch'. This is also the reason the 4th Dimension is a favorite conscript among science fiction writers and metaphysicists.

There is unflappable security in speculations and improvisations of a subject, about which there is no recognized non-mathematical comprehension; no recognized absolutes or authorities (when the allegory expert falsely emerges everywhere, waxing of discovery, while swearing his subject is functionally unfindable).

A haven for befuddled academic refugees. A jingoistic proving ground that endorses (and/or ambivalently disqualifies) everything and/or anything; according to the needs of the sometimes desperately ignorant, pretentious, scientifically name-saked 'authorities' and historical revisionists. Innocent ignorance is exonerated in this consideration.

No discourse on the 4th Dimension, whether it be physics or science fiction, would be complete without directly suggesting that it is 'unimaginable', or, 'incomprehensible', or 'something else', or 'someplace else' ('far out').

Yet, it is agreed that the 4th Dimension is 'time & motion' ; somehow integrally combined with the 3 recognized Dimensions of Space; existing always and everywhere. Therefore we need very little imagination or faith in Einstein, to know that we are perpetually witnessing and experiencing the 4th Dimension, in simply being conscious of the reality we are part of; by which we are constantly surrounded.

We can correctly go one step further. We can be confident that the 4th Dimension has been, and continues to be overlooked. That is, we can know that some very fundamental constituent or phenomenon of reality - with which we are all familiar, but which has yet to be recognized, is the 4th Dimension. The 4-Dimensional space-time continuum to be exact.

Today's physical scientists tell us that 'the 4th Dimension is time and motion'. They say this because they know Einstein proved it mathematically. But it is not a non-mathematically satisfactory answer; because it does not contribute to any further comprehension of what the 4th Dimension is, relative to The colloquial 3-Dimensional Experience.

Time and Motion are measurable and comprehensible in Three Dimensions. Why not in 4? What is it about proven and measured 4-dimensional reality, that has not been recognized? Why has it not been recognized?

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mkirkpatrick

Great thread starter Rascal,without votexial occurences,where would gravity stand? Would
it even be able to manifest at all? Did uncle Albert know this!

regards michael.

MJA

Help me out RP,

If an object is measured in three dimensions, and it,s height, width, length, (x,y,z,) is known, then its location or time-space would be another dimension, which is location (w) or a fourth dimension, right?
But are their not other dimesions such as weight (v)? What about the measuring tool, is that another dimension? What of the measurer? What of multiple measurers measuring from different perceptions or measuring points or time and space? Gravity? Then there is motion of the object, motion of the measurer, motion of the measuring tool? And if everything is in motion, not as we would simply wish, or uniform universal motion, but chaotic, everything moving in different directions, or all the dimensions are in a constant state of change and independent of one another; is that another dimension?
Isn't their more than 4 dimensions relative to measuring anything?

An example of the measure of nature:

How many leaves are under the tree?

You have measured or counted the leaves under a tree a 100 times, and know without a doubt, that their are 5 leaves under the tree. You decide to move a leave and find another or 6th. Does that 6th leave count, is their now six? You call another scientist and ask him how many leaves are under the tree, and he responds: "what tree?" So you attempt to count the leaves again by yourself and find, the six leaves are gone; a wind has come and blown them all away. Oh dear, the life of a scientist! Now there are zero leaves and at last you know the truth. The truth is zero. Just when the truth is known a single leaf, much like Newton's apple falls to the ground, and you begin to wonder about the truth, about measure.
Measure?

Are the dimensions of measure not infinite, or is even a single dimension finitely definable?

Thanks,

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RascalPuff

Dear MJA:

There's an entire work-in-progress, condensed book, in response to your question, at the provided URL address.

Looking forward to conversation with you here, after you've referenced that informational source, there.

Best regards,
- RP

MJA

Quote:

Originally Posted by RascalPuff

Dear MJA:

There's an entire work-in-progress, condensed book, in response to your question, at the provided URL address.

Looking forward to conversation with you here, after you've referenced that informational source, there.

Best regards,
- RP

Dear RP,

I was interested in seeing this book you refer too, but alas, there is no URL address.
Please try again.

I have to tell you that something exciting has happened to me today. I believe I have found the proof of equality, the proof of truth that I have been looking for. I knew the solution had to be equal, and now I have the proof. I'll try to share it soon.
I think it is a very big day for everything!

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RascalPuff

Dear MJA:

Please refer to the URL address at the first post (#1 Permalink) of this thread, and please do get back to me.

(The provided URL is http://forums.delphiforums.com/EinsteinGroupie )

Best regards,
- RP

MJA

Dear RP,

I believe you have done me a great service today by reintroducing me to the spaceandmotion web page. I think they will become a great help to me. Thanks.

In regard to your theory of unification, I will say:
I am sure your quest is on the truest path; unification, or the completion of Einstein's work is the path to TOE. I have no doubt. Unfortunately I do not concur with your assessment that nature can be compressed into the, as I see it, complexity of wave particles. Perhaps it is only my lack of comprehension, but also believe the ultimate truth is much more simple than thought. I fail to understand the complexities of (WSM), but do know that nature's ultimate truth will be understood by all.
That said, I admire anyone searching for truth, and even more those who have spent there entire lives, like yours RP, in pursuit of truth. It is the most noble of causes.
Unification is the truth.
For me, if equality is not nature's simple unifying truth, I wouldn't want to be here.
I don't want to live in a world of waves, only a united world of oneness or equality.
Maybe you can help me understand?
I was in Hawaii this summer and those waves nearly killed me!

Thanks,

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MJA

RascalPuff

Dear MJA:
Thanks for the thanks.
There's an updated presentation of resource material in ToeQuest articles, at
http://www.toequest.com/forum/toe-th...ies.html?ltr=T
Best regards,
- RP

MJA

Which way is up?

Go about 3 miles straight ahead, and when you get to the fork in the road, veer right.
Right is better than wrong you know. About 30 minutes from there, you'll see an apple orchard with an Ottis Elevator truck parked under one of the trees. If you question it, so did I. Just past the apple elevator orchard take a left on the dirt road called "Nowhere". Hmm, the road to nowhere, their's a song like that. Continuing on, you will see a sign that reads: "Bridge Out", and know your on the right road. On the other side of the bridge is a gas station, stop there if you can and ask the attendant for help. Tell him your lost, and simply need the directions to up.
The attendant is not the smartest apple on the tree, but he will point you the right way.
Don't get lost, it's easy to do.
Happy trails!

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MJA

One other thought: being the gas station attendant was so knowledgable and able to point you in the right, or true direction, perhaps you should ask him if he would be so kind as to help you also with the simple truth, the simple truth of everything, TOE..
Questions are a great pathway to truth, don't ya know?

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MJA