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[Wick]

Antonio,

I thought you might like this article I read yesterday. Perhaps you can find the technical article regarding the experiment. Here is the link.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-...ts-vacuum.html

Looks like photons have been generated out of the vacuum. Your cup of tea, I believe.

Wick

[austintorn@aol.com]

How come the photons must appear in pairs?

[Wick]

How come the photons must appear in pairs?

I asked myself the same question. My first thought was that Noah brought the animals two by two and that maybe photons act the same way when they come in out of the quantum foam .

Seriously, though, in quantum mechanics a pair production is quite normal. For most particles, pair production means that a particle and antiparticle are produced. Photons, however, are special. A photon can be thought of as its own antiparticle. In the picture on the article it looks like the particles are moving together in the same direction. I'm not sure if that is technially correct. I think they should be travelling in opposite direction away from the oscillating magnetic field. Antonio might be able to verify or dispute this supposition.

Wick

[austintorn@aol.com]

Yes, maybe an opposite direction requirement; otherwise, though, a photon, being its own antiparticle, and neutral, and both matter/antimatter, is complete in itself, unlike, say an electron and positron pair, in which each must exist because of the other, apparently both charge-wise and matter/antimatter-wise. A photon would kind of reflect Totality, but an electron and a positron just half each. Somehow, the positive and negative, must live in peace in a photon, and I guess, forget the matter/antimatter part, if a photon is neither, but just energy.


Why didn't Noah catch more fish than he did?

He only had two worms.

[austintorn@aol.com]

2 stable matter particles, in free space, both charged—the electron and the proton (and their anti-particles), as oppositely charged, but of different masses.

1 stable energy particle, in free space, neutral charge—the photon.

Neutron in free space decay within minutes.

No stable neutral matter particles.

No stable charged energy particles.

How come?

(Some kind of balance? But why does the proton have 1836 times the mass of an electron?)

[Wick]

2 stable matter particles, in free space, both charged—the electron and the proton (and their anti-particles), as oppositely charged, but of different masses.

1 stable energy particle, in free space, neutral charge—the photon.

Neutron in free space decay within minutes.

No stable neutral matter particles.

No stable charged energy particles.

How come?

(Some kind of balance? But why does the proton have 1836 times the mass of an electron?)

Mustn't answer. Would derail Antonio's thread.

[AntonioLao]

The purpose of this thread is to discuss that vacuum excitations is best described by a quantum theory of the space-time continuum with two distinctive topologies: the H-plus and the H-minus topologies.