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    "Scientists Hate Coincidences." - An unscientific non sequitur.

    The title of this thread ('Scientists hate coincidences') is excerpted from an article, by Robert Roy Britt, Senior Science Writer, subjecting Dark Matter and Dark Energy, in SPACE.com's weekly Mystery Monday series.

    http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ay_040712.html

    The disparity of the title is in the fact that a coincidence in nature very often proffers a deeper meaning worthy of further research and investigation.

    An example of a series of apparently unrelated coincidences is in the at-first unrecognized, unanticipated, chain of directly related events, leading from Galileo to Einstein, and which may proceed to the resolution of the present enigma of Dark Matter and Dark Energy...

    Galileo demystified Aristotelian thought, by proving that all objects descend at the same rate of acceleration regardless of mass value, in the absence of air resistance. This discovery implied more than a mere, inadvertant 'coincidence'...

    Roland Von Eotvos - in searching for the anticipated differences in descent rates - refined this (unanticipated) 'coincidence' by proving that it holds true down to less than a billionth of a second.

    Einstein produced the General Theory out of this 'coincidence', finding that inert and heavy mass values are indistinguishable.

    When science encounters a 'coincidence', such a finding can alert the observer that there may in fact be some relationship beyond coincidence. It does not have to be an 'embarassing' and 'glaring problem' at all (as Britt calls the conjunction of Dark Matter and Dark Energy); in fact the dilemma apparent, may encompass a solution.

    Coincidences therefore should not be detested or underestimated, but instead, focused upon and pursued to resolution which may uncover unforeseen answers.

    This thread hopes to inspire the finding of a direct link between - if not an identity within -Dark Matter and Dark Energy, as well as the inclusion of additional historical and contemporary scientific coincidences.

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    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
    "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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    Re: "Scientists Hate Coincidences." - An unscientific non sequitur.

    "Coincidences therefore should not be detested or underestimated, but instead, focused upon and pursued to resolution which may uncover unforeseen answers."

    http://forums.delphiforums.com/EinsteinGroupie

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    (George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
    "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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    Re: "Scientists Hate Coincidences." - An unscientific non sequitur.

    Hello RP:
    I agree totally. We only have 2 ways to achieve new knowledge. one is by (trial and error). This is the basis for experimentation, and all measurements. The other is the recognition of a pattern of behavior. This recognition always begins with what we call a coincidence. It is because of examination of these coincidences that we find a pattern.
    Though I agree with the need to research these coincidences, I also understand why there is a negative feeling for this observation. This is very likely that the word for opportunity and danger is represented by one symbol in the Chinese language.

    Though research into a coincidence may result with new knowledge it can also result with an endless search for something that does not exist. Something that does not exist leaves no marker that tells us when to stop looking.

    All research should be done within the limits of logic.
    If you keep finding coincidental data till you have a coherent line of data, yet there is still no known pattern that you can connect to. When can you tell when it is time to stop if you keep returning with more coincidences and a longer line of coherent thought, yet still no verification of a real solution? I may be caught in such a loop, then again the results are much too coherent and relevant to walk away from.
    John.

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    Re: "Scientists Hate Coincidences." - An unscientific non sequitur.

    A rather intriguing minor coincidence occurred in my life today, or at least it was unusual enough to catch my limited attention span, lol....

    I was shopping in the relatively new natural health section of our larger corporate store and found a few items of interest which I decided to purchase for trial. Among these was a brand of muesli type cereal which I had never even heard of before. It is manufactured in the UK, distributed in Canada, and meets a wide variety of other approvals including vegetarian, recycled packaging, cost and other parameters, so into my cart it went.

    A short time later, I was at home and the Stephen and Chris show was on in the background. Momentarily, my attention was caught when I heard it announced that each member of the studio audience was receiving as gift a box of the cereal that I had just purchased.

    Too funny.

    From never having heard of it, to coming across same twice within as many hours.

    Life's like that......
    So many paths to the same destination,
    would, but I could, experience them all...

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    Re: "Scientists Hate Coincidences." - An unscientific non sequitur.

    TRUTH OR HAPPENSTANCE?

    John Allen Paulos said that “In reality, the most astonishingly incredible coincidence imaginable would be the complete absence of coincidence.”

    Einstein was bothered by the fact that gravity and inertia balance out exactly, allowing a cannon ball to fall at the same rate as a marble. Was it a happenstance or a truth? He concluded that gravity and inertia are aspects of a bigger picture—the curvature of space-time.

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