[mkirkpatrick]

I would say the aether has everything to do with it Rascal!



regards michael.

[N0B0DY]

Originally Posted by RascalPuff 'How could it?' is a very good question, as Nobody has noted - there's a doorway to a lot of answers in that question and several contingencies. The controversial 'aether' may have something to do with it. Best regards, - RP

That was quite a remarkable assessment, RP, giving further reason to frequent your site.

I think, as based on experiments, aether can imply in a similar fashion to the light topic, that its velocity always exactly accords with the velocity of any and all media - the reason I made note of the media being variable forms of light, aether or space.

In effect, perhaps counter-intuitively, there would really be no change in light speed, only in its wavelengths.

[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY That was quite a remarkable assessment, RP, giving further reason to frequent your site. I think, as based on experiments, aether can imply in a similar fashion to the light topic, that its velocity always exactly accords with the velocity of any and all media - the reason I made note of the media being variable forms of light, aether or space. In effect, perhaps counter-intuitively, there would really be no change in light speed, only in its wavelengths.

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Light @ 17 meters per second, resumes normal speed...

Please check out this article, and pay particular heed to the last sentence...

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...55/ai_54419454

(Thank you, Mr. Nobody; this is also in response to MJA's above post - you may restrain your applause?)

Best regards,
- RP

[N0B0DY]

I think sometimes we say speed when we really mean velocity. The light is stored within a greater number of rotating shells before it is emitted again, but I don't think it constitutes a reduction in speed.

If I remember right, one of the physicists likened it to a train disappearing inside a thread, pausing, and then reappearing out the other side. I think the cause for the pause and the means of the recovery are debatable.

[RascalPuff]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY I think sometimes we say speed when we really mean velocity. The light is stored within a greater number of rotating shells before it is emitted again, but I don't think it constitutes a reduction in speed. If I remember right, one of the physicists likened it to a train disappearing inside a thread, pausing, and then reappearing out the other side. I think the cause for the pause and the means of the recovery are debatable.

Hey Mr. Nobody:
Speaking of the cause for the pause, might it be considered that the earlier, more dense moments of the 4-D space-time continuum are being thermodynamically replicated in the cryogenic laboratory?

[N0B0DY]

RP,

Although I appreciate the added courtesy, there is a "Mr. Nobody" on this forum who doesn't share my views and he may not want anyone to confuse us two. You can call me Raven if you like.

I like to simplify these experiments and liken the two from this - http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2...stoplight.html - to Stanford's light-to-mass experiments, with there being no difference between the two except for velocity. So your response is very accurate I would say, especially considering that the increase in the atoms' energy is proportionate to the decrease in the beam's.

Just as is inferred regarding the invariant masses of electrons/positrons, we can ask what happens to the light in the light-to-mass experiments if mass is not the light itself; having the same speed, but different velocities due to the electrons'/positrons' gravity (which I propose has the same strength as the strong force).

[dipayankar]

Photon was not only brought to a stop. It was also slowed down to a velocity of 38 kms / hr which is a cycling speed.

Originally Posted by N0B0DY I think sometimes we say speed when we really mean velocity. The light is stored within a greater number of rotating shells before it is emitted again, but I don't think it constitutes a reduction in speed. If I remember right, one of the physicists likened it to a train disappearing inside a thread, pausing, and then reappearing out the other side. I think the cause for the pause and the means of the recovery are debatable.

[MJA]

The dominant paradigm of the universe regardless of the motion of its parts, is simply and truly the unity or oneness of its all!

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MJA

[RascalPuff]

Hi Dipayankar:
Given the content of the url in Nobody's most recent post, I don't think anyone considers the - Stanford-Harvard - experimental results to be very debateable anymore. They've gone from slowing light to eighteen meters per second, to stopping it altogether, and then re-starting it. Professor Hau and her colleagues certainly have the facilities and the credentials.
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Originally Posted by N0B0DY RP, I like to simplify these experiments and liken the two from this - http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2...stoplight.html - to Stanford's light-to-mass experiments, with there being no difference between the two except for velocity. So your response is very accurate I would say, especially considering that the increase in the atoms' energy is proportionate to the decrease in the beam's. Just as is inferred regarding the invariant masses of electrons/positrons, we can ask what happens to the light in the light-to-mass experiments if mass is not the light itself; having the same speed, but different velocities due to the electrons'/positrons' gravity (which I propose has the same strength as the strong force).

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Best regards,
- RP

[N0B0DY]

I agree that credentials are important, RP, but textbooks and experiments are open to interpretations that set the foundation for future textbooks and experiments. So in that light, I suggest there is a difference between the optical illusion of group velocities greatly exceeding or slowing light and the absolute speed of light.

The correlation between mass and energy can be taken, as well as mistaken, as variable forms of matter. Yet, even in such an interpretive case, matter - which I liken to the absolute speed of light/aether/space - never changes.