[gs_cmans]

but why ? i beleive any metaphysical assumptions must also obey the characteristics of physical laws. The physics laws are not that we established, they are the ones decoded from the behavoiur of Nature.

Might be that we dont have all those laws patterns identified till now, but i am sure we will. You know Stephan Hawkings have dedicated his whole soul for this. He has aimed that atleast in next 20 years some how the people will get the TOE threory.

[Krzysztof Michalski]

I am an optimist too. I belive we will build correct theory in maximum 5-7 years but we need know first where is dark matter: inside or outside the universe. Next we need know all cosmic dimensions. The human life is entered in 4 dimensional space-time but there are much more another dimensional in Cosmos at whole. We need define absolute vacuum as a cosmic stage of expanding local space-times creating many variety universes. We need understand well function of the black holes as vacuum cleaners of matter-energy. When we appreciate, that we live in the most real and probable world being an essence of cosmic and logic plan we will know thoughts of God...

[gs_cmans]

i am sure that we have dark matter in our universe itself by the facts of objects orbitting around some unseen matter(by its gravity)
may be other universes also contains dark matter.

[subversion]

wouldn't this unseen matter you describe just be black holes and not dark matter per se?

[gs_cmans]

i think you have mistaken about black holes.
if what you say is true then the elements orbiting the blackhole would have slowly sinked on to the black hole.

Black hole is really a different concept.

[michellemfry]

If everything from particles to black holes make up only 1% of the entire mass of the universe, why is it so hard to believe we could come from nothing. We barely are something as it is, mass wise. Maybe we could argue our way up to about 5% but that's pushing it.

[Krzysztof Michalski]

We could not come from nothing, because the universe is expanding by laws of science after Planck,s period. Before that the universe was created through transcendental community. Not necessary to look for hyper math-physical law before the Big Bang. The man is particulary case of spirytual and science transformation. One of plural intelligent movement of matter and energy.

[mkirkpatrick]

The so called big-bang,was really just a occurance within the cycle of manifestation,an endless cycle of outbreathing,and inbreathing,obscuration
and manifestation,A focussed intention arising in an unfathomable ocean of
infinite potential mindfulness,spirit,energy,from the only Real One-Thing,came
the first principle of maifestation,lets call it the Protyle atom,from this One
Symbol-atom came all that now is.That intention is still fully focussed,and will
remain so until the cycle has outrun the intended course,millions of years hence,
which are barely a blink of a eye for the One-Thing that set it in motion.



kind regardsmichael.

[SinJin]

Would this theory work at all? - Before the Big Bang all that existed was a sea of the most fundemental particles (or strings) that were in perfect equilibrium with eachother. By this I mean they were all equally spaced apart from eachother or whatever, exerting the same force on each of its neighbors so that together they formed a sort of giant point grid, none moving from their spot. They wouldn't be moving or interacting with eachother, so there wouldn't be any concept of time. But then a fluke occures and one of these fundemental particles moves a little closer to it's neighbor, which sets off the entire equilibrium and like a giant chain reaction they all start clumping together and interacting. Then that would be the big bang, as they suddenly start interacting with eachother. The different arrangements of clumps would form matter and space and so forth.

[michellemfry]

Sinjin, you are correct. There is something very true in what you are saying. I could picture a protyle atom forming from a string. Like a little dimension curling up into a sphere. Then the whole thing is propagated along that undisturbed formation. Write down what you said in your journal, it's worth keeping.