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12-02-2005, 02:03 PM
If the Big Bang is part of a cycle of manifestation, are you predicting that it could or should or will happen again? A TOE is going to have to include this part wouldn't it? It was what it was, but could it be again? We have no nothing left to do another one. All is something now. Is there any nothing left? | |
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12-03-2005, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by michellemfry If the Big Bang is part of a cycle of manifestation...
it could or should or will happen again? | Excuse my cutting in... If the arising of world is called “Big Bang”, then we can call world dying - “Big Annihilation”, so “Big Bangs” are alternated with “Big Annihilations” in succession, i.e. world arising is followed by its dying, so there can’t be two successive “Big Bangs”… | |
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12-03-2005, 10:53 AM
Do you think we are in a period of annihilation? | |
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12-03-2005, 11:14 AM
Next stage will be just it (when it happens), but not a "Big Bang" again. | |
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12-03-2005, 11:18 AM
Let's hope for faster than light change to come our way this time. If it must be, let it be faster! | |
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12-03-2005, 11:28 AM
You see, I consider the universe as a unity of equal opposite phenomenons and equal opposite precesses (i.e. events). For thorough annihilation of universe simultaneous annihilation of all pairs is needed. It has too small credibility, but small credibility doesn't exclude its incoming happening "some day"...
But who knows when it happens. | |
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12-03-2005, 01:21 PM
What do you think about alternative theory: We are living among two Hyper states of matter-energy: The Autocreation as result of many chaotic attempts to exchange energy for matter and many combinations among all particles and their opposites to create whatever complex and independent elementary structures able to permanent unite. This is initial state. The final state is called Autodestruction as natural universe aspire to return to the temporary state of upside - down. We are living in the first stage (expansion) now, maybe the human would be able to exist in the reverse stage ? We have to know: Is it possible to create something serious from absolute nothing without help intelligent factor ? Is there intelligent energy and "stupid" matter or the initialy state come into being by intelligent plan assuming human birthday ? I think we are exceptionaly and happy born child of "good/bad" autocreation and autodestruction. | |
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12-03-2005, 01:49 PM
In Galaxies, Timothy Ferris writes the following about the universe:
...we find it lucid, intelligible, observable, evolving, and involving. The universe invites inquiry, as clear skies invite birds to fly.
Let's put it this way. If someone wrote that about a person, that person should be charmed and flattered. For something as big as it is to be involving is quite humbling. | |
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12-03-2005, 03:54 PM
In the process of all explosions there is an interval of which all the material of the exploding object is expanding and still influenced by its bonding properties of the substance; Thus there is no center to the explosion, only the expansion. Once the bonding between the fragments is broken, the explosion continues with the fragmentation of matter expelled in all directions.
Within our universe it is the substance of gravity (ether) that is influencing all the fragments of the universe (galaxies) and thus it appears as an expansion while still bonded by gravity. Once this bonding is weakened between the galaxies, then the universe will become an explosion rather than an expanse. The objects of the universe will be scattered throughout the cosmological void at ever increasing velocities and in all directions like any normal exploding system. This volume of the void becomes the center of the universal explosion.
The universe has yet to enter the phase that we would refer to as an explosion. David | |
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12-03-2005, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Krzysztof Michalski Is it possible to create something serious from absolute nothing without help intelligent factor? | I think that everything was created from absolute nothing by auto-creation. Expansion is the same as space, but contraction is the same as matter, and I don’t think we are exceptional creatures. I think all kind of matter is exceptional in universe, let’s take for example small bird. It seems to be trivial, unimportant thing, but it’s more important for God than us: Niblia’s will The wind is blowing - snowfall is bringing, Small bird Niblia on slope is grieving, -Always merry, always singing, Little Niblia what made you weeping? -I’m a beggar, do not you know? Cruel frost met me on my outing, Coldness did hit me made my heart melting, Look! My frozen wings to ribs are sticking. I can’t fly, not to say jumping, With my little legs, stonily hurting. Please find my orphans, and call them quickly, To dig cold grave on slope of this hill, Let them make coffin from the violets Throw nice flowers on my heart - charming Please do remember if you trust heaven Please, tell my orphans, please, do my darling… Great Georgian poet: Vazha-Phshavela Niblias anderdzi (Thus sounds it in Georgian) Qari uberavs, moaqvs namqeri, Chiti niblia atirda mthaze, -Sul mudam lagho da mkhiarulo, Chito nibliav tsremls aphrqvev raze? -usakhl-karo var, gana ar itsi, Kinvam momastsro dzmobilo gzaze, Damkra sitsivem, guli damilbo, Da mimikina phrthebitsa tanze, Phrena ar dzalmidzs, vegharts davdivar, Zed mimekina phekhebi qvaze. Tsadi uthkhari chemsa oblebsa, Da Gadasdzakhe maghlidan thavze: Aq gamithxaron tsivi samare, Aqve dammarkhon am maghal mthaze, Nazi iisa kubo shemikran, Guls damakaron turpha kesane, Ar daivitsko thu gtsams uphali, Ar daivitsko, sheni kvnesame… Great Georgian poet: Vazha-Phshavela
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