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    Re: Why is gravity attractive while electromagnetism is repulsive

    Hi Graybeard and all,

    The reason why an electromagnetic force can both be atractive and repulsive is that the electromagnetic force forms a magnetic field in which the electromagnetic force moves at the speed of light. If the electromagnetic force can move in one direction it can join another electromagnet field moving in the same direction. However, when the electromagnetic field encounters another electromagnetic field moving in the opposite direction, the two magnetic fields become repulsive.

    The force of gravity also forms a field of gravity but all fields of gravity just attract, or is a force that attracts any other field of gravity. Thus two particles, each of which has its own gravitational field, always attract each other.

    Since, however, the electromagnetic force is relatively much greater than the force of gravity, the electromagnetic force dominates or rules over the gravitational force. Thus in an atom, the electromagnetic froces are much more active than the forces of gravity.

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    Re: Why is gravity attractive while electromagnetism is repulsive

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    Hi Graybeard and all
    What has Graybeard got to do with this thread ?????

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    Re: Why is gravity attractive while electromagnetism is repulsive

    Hi Nichola Tesla and all,
    I find your theory on gravity and dark matter a bit complicated but I can see a connection between dark matter and gravity. To me dark matter consists basically of quanta particles which is radiant light or electro-magnetic radiation. Each quantum particle is constituted by two equal and opposite froces, one consists of a gravitational force and the other, of a kinetical force eg. a force to motion because the quantum particle moves at the speed of light. The gravitational force gives the particle a non relativity mass eg. mass that is not subject to relativity, but it gives the particle mass and thus gravity. This mass of all the radiant light in the universe could constitute its dark matter.

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    Re: Why is gravity attractive while electromagnetism is repulsive

    Electromagnetism can be both an attractant and repellant.

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    Two identical electromagnetic beams side by side can attract or repel if the phase of the fields are matched to attract or repel. This affirms that propagated electromagnetic fields obey the same physic laws that were identified in laboratory tests on static electric and magnetic fields some 200 years ago.

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    Re: Why is gravity attractive while electromagnetism is repulsive

    Years ago I wondered about atraction or repulsion between parallel light beams thanks for information. It would be nice if a fiber optic wire could be wrapped around an iron core to make a magnet. A sign wave of light shows that magnetism and static fields are out of phase. This means to me that there is a line up in space of space packets to get the electromagnetic sines. I see space packets that alternatingly spin and static charge.

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    Re: Why is gravity attractive while electromagnetism is repulsive

    If space is filled with squares that oscillate in an xyz pattern as two opposite faces come together there will be 8 apexes for spin and 6 faces for static attraction. All these squares [Planck volumes] are bound together throughout space as a space fabric that makes the field in space for magnetism [up or down} and static charges{+ and -}. Sense all charges and poles are linked, space is neutral in charge or magnetism. Upsetting the neutral field casuses a photon wave of both magnetism and static charge.

    Gravity to me is a compacted ball of an x,y,z time-line of repeating steps one after another in a loop that is our univers. Each present point is one step from the past step in the loop, blocking points of presently filled spots means a divergence of steps that way. In-line steps along the looped path occur when chains are packed together or stretched chains that cause choices of inline steps that freeze time and is the reason for gravity, black holes, dark energy and matter. Think of plotting steps on a graph an you will get the meaning reality is nature plotting points in which we live and we see forces, gravity, magnetism and everything that is not real.

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    Re: Why is gravity attractive while electromagnetism is repulsive

    Quote Originally Posted by spacedout View Post
    A sign wave of light shows that magnetism and static fields are out of phase.
    The magnetic and electric field are not out of phase, they are at 90 degrees to each other. A magnetic field is generated simultaneously with the electric field. The sine wave is displaying the magnitude and polarity, usually that of the electric field. If the sine wave is displayed as up and down, the magnetic field would be in and out of the paper.

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    Re: Why is gravity attractive while electromagnetism is repulsive

    Thanks for that information---I had it wrong. The vortex spin and static charge are part of the crest of the sign wave. Then what is the separation between static and vortex charges? They can't be one. I see a time-line aether and of xyz steps of energy, time and distance. To have a vortex there must be a smaller electric field that filles space and makes the fluid field that a vortex can be made of. This means that a Planck packet of light moves forward as compacted space [balled time-line aether] leaving a vacuum. The time-line string focusses the wave into a wave particle the when it moves forward it creats a vortex toris around itself loosing energy. Then the toris looses its spin propelling the compacted wave forward. This means the forward movement occurs first and then momentum is captured afterwards and then given back to the compacted or rarified wave. However, the electric field is always in the picture while the toris comes and goes...am I wrong?

    If the time-line relocations alter the path so vibrations occur and by chance the strands of the path vibrate in unison a vacuum and pressure field wave particle occurs each moving in opposite directions. Due to in line step transfers each wave particle will have the same mass one by compaction favoring in-line transfers that freeze the path---this happens also with vacuum particles as stretched chains also favor more inline relocations freezing the path at the local level.

    Gravity occurs when the two basic particle waves [crossed chains] come in and out of the aether time-line and diffuse during their short life time outward. There are 6 faces on a quark and lepton that charged either vacuum or pressure. As the field flows into the faces of QLs two space charges - and + flow into the faces, one charge is canceled leaving the origonal charge in place. This diffusion of canceled particels back into random vibrating space is what causes gravity. It is a flow of vacuum and pressure particles canceling back into random aether vibration. I should add that the vortex spin will alternate as the wave particle moves forward this may be the answer for spin properties of 1 for light. The time-line is a recycled path of finite steps [ a step is energy, time and distance all in one].

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    Re: Why is gravity attractive while electromagnetism is repulsive

    Quote Originally Posted by spacedout View Post
    .... The vortex spin and static charge are part of the crest of the sign wave. Then what is the separation between static and vortex charges? ....
    There is no spin nor static charge involved with transverse electromagnetic waves (TEM). All a sine wave does is illustrate the relative magnitude of the electric or magnetic field vectors during the period of a cycle.


 

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