The possability of 3 dimensions between the micro and macro

[everymansmedium]

Hello
This is to begin a topic of discussion about the possibilities of a geometry between a micro point and a macro point. Yes it is a point. You must remember that it is on a membrane even though it appears to be opposite sides of the universe it is a point on a membrane. These points are connected as follows: Every conceivable point in 3 d space traveling outward in all directions as time to connect to every conceivable instance in 3 d time to travel outward as space in all directions of 3 d time, to once again return to every conceivable point in 3 d space.

One time around the membrane is twice around the loop.

One time around the membrane is 2 times by the twist (reversal-return)

The distance to the red shift is the distance between one twist and the next on the membrane.

all the directions relate to all the locations at the red shift this is one point on the membrane Each point in 3 d space has its own (all directions and all locations) in this way the observer is always at the center, as every conceivable point in the universe is a potential center.

Well lets see what happens with this thought.
John

[Graybeard]

Well lets see what happens with this thought.
John

Hi John .... been a long time

Well ... I've read it three times and still none the wiser ... any chance of a graphic ... even a simple one

cool bananas ... greg

[everymansmedium]

Hi John .... been a long time

Well ... I've read it three times and still none the wiser ... any chance of a graphic ... even a simple one

cool bananas ... greg

Hi Greg:
I have a model posted on line, It does not answer all of the questions, but it is an indicator of where to begin. This type of membrane is of the type that is generated by M-Theory. Forgive me but I am not able to recreate the math. That would be a back to school thing for me to get a grip of that math. However there was enough of a description to indicate that the membrane that I indicate is of the very same configuration. I at one time had the public domain math that resulted in this 11 dimensional membrane with 2 four dimensional existence mediums. It is likely that I still have it someplace. But the math that was posted has changed as the people that generated it moved on to other models. They are looking for the model to explain the interaction of gravity with all the other forces. However the thought that I had relative to a non deterministic creation at the core, itself becomes a possible explanation for gravity as the result of creation itself. Hence it is not a true force but simply a reaction to the process of creation. I will see if I can find the math that was posted. In the mean time, the model is at:
http://unit-unity-community.com/the-membrane.htm
John

[everymansmedium]

Hi John .... been a long time

Well ... I've read it three times and still none the wiser ... any chance of a graphic ... even a simple one

cool bananas ... greg

Hello again Greg:
It seems that I found one of the text files containing the public domain equation that indicates a dual 4 dimensional medium on an 11 dimensional membrane.

I had this posted before and it caused my web hotel to come very close to my data handling limit. I will leave it for a while until it becomes a problem.

http://unit-unity-community.com/Equations.txt

This is the one and only link to it. There is no link published.
All the best to you if you can follow this enough to determine its accuracy.


I am not sure if I can even find the twist that results with the Mobius strip. I am sure it is there. If you have better luck than I did I would appreciate some additional notation within it

John.

[Graybeard]

John ... give me a little time ... lol

greg

[Graybeard]

.... the model is at:

http://unit-unity-community.com/the-membrane.htm

Hi John ..

I followed the model, not sure if I got it correct. The way it turned out for me is as a Mobius Strip. Wouldn't a donut or torus (without the twist) give you just as much flexibility.

Also, I don't understand how you are relating the red-shift to the loop ??

cool bananas ... greg

[everymansmedium]

Hi John ..

I followed the model, not sure if I got it correct. The way it turned out for me is as a Mobius Strip. Wouldn't a donut or torus (without the twist) give you just as much flexibility.

Also, I don't understand how you are relating the red-shift to the loop ??

cool bananas ... greg

Hi Greg:
The membrane is a configuration that was the result of a series of other considerations. The other considerations are relative to a probabilistic look at a series of possible trails that one might follow. To change to a different configuration would cause a reverting back to a previous stage of development and any additional manifestations that resulted following that point of return. This is simply more time and effort to access any changes that might result of the configuration change. It is not out of the question.
There was a series of discoveries that were backed by coincidence. Too many coincidences to have happened as the result of a random alignment. That is why I initially said it was like watching a house of cards build itself.
To see this would be to see the trail I followed and my reasoning for all the choices that I made.

I feel that the majority of what I am finding is of considerable value even though the basic model of the membrane need be changed to match the rest of the findings. I results with a coherent view of all things. This kind of view does not presently exist in either science or philosophy. Why should any model be able to answer all of the questions yet remain wrong.

At this stage I will need help in finding where, or if, it is not coherent. But that still does not bring it to a close, it simply requires a change to remove whatever is found to be incoherent and continue from there.

The twist and the bipolar configuration. To remove these is to remove the entire visualization of the divine function. This would be a fatal blow to the theory as it removes all of the data that coincides with all of the religious documents. I was not trying to align with these things when I started this quest. They were the result of seeing the possibilities of a system with these features. The twist is the polarity reversal that indicates that space and time are reversible. This results with the ability to visualize a memory medium as the result of space being formatted by the time as the polarity reversed. This kind of memory medium would in fact be divine. This indicates that NOTHING IS EVER LOST. Even the blueprint for the dinosaurs still remains. Every single character that ever existed is retained in a string of space that is formatted by the experiences in time as the polarity reversed.
This appears as the SOUL. It really appears that it is all there. Help in finding new and better ways to examine these possibilities might prove to be the most incredible experiences that mankind has ever undertaken. If it turns out to be true. Then the world will change as people learn the truth. It might have a very positive effect on people when they learn that they are in fact going to one day face judgement. It may be that this judgement might be as a result of all people knowing what is and has ever been in our mind. It does not necessarily mean the tribunal type of judgement as is presently thought of in most religious books. It might mean the removal of all privacy eventually. That seems to be a direction that we are headed now anyway.

To me this kind of a find is much better than zero point energy. To see the mind of the divine.

John

[Graybeard]

To change to a different configuration would cause a reverting back to a previous stage of development and any additional manifestations that resulted following that point of return.
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The twist and the bipolar configuration. To remove these is to remove the entire visualization of the divine function.

I'm only brainstorming here, not to be taken too seriously:

After I made the strip of paper as you described, I then imagined what would be the result if the paper was thicker. Lets say the paper was as thick as it is wide. Now lets start to bevel and round off the edges. Lets continue to do this until the paper is cylindrical or circular.

Now we have a cylindrical mobius strip, and if we untwist the loop it becomes a donut or torus. Nothing else changes

The beauty of this is that you are not limited to "One time around the membrane is twice around the loop." but to an infinite number of times around the membrane, and you need never complete the loop.

Don't really know if my explanation makes sense. I am just applying Occam's Razor to the mobius strip. Of course this makes no sense if you are referring to a true 2 dimensional strip.

cool bananas ... greg

[everymansmedium]

I'm only brainstorming here, not to be taken too seriously:

After I made the strip of paper as you described, I then imagined what would be the result if the paper was thicker. Lets say the paper was as thick as it is wide. Now lets start to bevel and round off the edges. Lets continue to do this until the paper is cylindrical or circular.

Now we have a cylindrical mobius strip, and if we untwist the loop it becomes a donut or torus. Nothing else changes

The beauty of this is that you are not limited to "One time around the membrane is twice around the loop." but to an infinite number of times around the membrane, and you need never complete the loop.

Don't really know if my explanation makes sense. I am just applying Occam's Razor to the mobius strip. Of course this makes no sense if you are referring to a true 2 dimensional strip.

cool bananas ... greg

Hi Lesley:
I think both the roof and some very thick clouds will be covering the full moon, that I am sure will still have its effect. We are presently getting some MUCH NEEDED RAIN
I have spent the morning drying the cats with a towel as the come in the house soaking wet. Yes I spoil them terrible. They jump up on my kitchen table hoping to be dried off and then fed. I have one presently lying on the desk between me and my computer screen. He in not in my way the keyboard and marble mouse is on a pull out shelf, and the screen is a 36" liquid crystal display, it is on a shelf just above the sleeping cat. If you were to cruise into the dance hall, Ill bet you would be the first one that I would want to dance with.
Type at you later, I have a post to put on TQ for Greg. On the micro macro talk. It is a good description of my position relative to the science community.
John

[everymansmedium]

Hi Lesley:
I think both the roof and some very thick clouds will be covering the full moon, that I am sure will still have its effect. We are presently getting some MUCH NEEDED RAIN
I have spent the morning drying the cats with a towel as the come in the house soaking wet. Yes I spoil them terrible. They jump up on my kitchen table hoping to be dried off and then fed. I have one presently lying on the desk between me and my computer screen. He in not in my way the keyboard and marble mouse is on a pull out shelf, and the screen is a 36" liquid crystal display, it is on a shelf just above the sleeping cat. If you were to cruise into the dance hall, Ill bet you would be the first one that I would want to dance with.
Type at you later, I have a post to put on TQ for Greg. On the micro macro talk. It is a good description of my position relative to the science community.
John

Hello Lesley, Greg and I hope Robert:
This was written as a PM to Lesley. does that mean that she got the post for Greg.

I think I will choose to keep only one window open while communicating here.
Sorry people
John