[Lloyd Gillespie]

This is a thought experiment only, or is it? How many of you have actually tried to go beyond the known and knowable reaches of all possible imagined universes' edges? Let's say you are granted the omniscient abilities of Q on Startrek. You have the abilities to do or imagine anything, and I mean anything. Now imagine a universal perspectival perception of your being, or "I" cognition, at a distance of a tG^tG years beyond the finite light cone of this known universe. A tG is to be interpreted as a trillion googols[a one with one hundred zeros after it]. Expand your mind to get your thinking around such a huge distance. At the same time, you are granted the ability of your perception being able to travel at a commensurable absolute velocity. Of course, this thought experiment will have to exist in the sub-quantum reality, since it exceeds all our known physical properties of physics. Now, where are you? What are you? Why is this imagination even possible? Is it useful?

First, IMO, this massive expanse of space must still be made of the infinite absolute sub-quantum substance, as even at this great distance, you still have not reached the edge of infinity. You are able to see, with your absolute vision abilities, the entire evolution of the big-bang universe, before and after, to this very day. What would you see? From such a theoretical perspective of absolute perception, IMO, the speed of light, for 13.7 billion years, from the big bang to now, would look like a small flicker of light, taking an instantaneous 13.7 billion years to cross the distance of one electron, or all of finiteness crossed, as though it were no more than an electron of time/distance, in real correspondence to our earth perspective. What would gravity look like? What would electricity look like? What would mass look like? How would you, being the omniscient, create the real universe, from this vantage point? Is this theoretical vantage point of perception of any real use to understanding the sub-quantum actions of our real universe, here from earth's perspectival perception? I think it is, in the fact of realizing our imagination has immense powers of envisioning the possibly real sub-quantum reality. Can we make any sense of true prime fundamental substances and motions from this unique perspective, through the many types of correspondence logics and maths we could use, or possibly dream up? Can we fully understand all the sub-quantum state changes of macro and micro phase spaces, required to build a finite universe, from the infinite substance? Can we define all this action rationally? Why does perspectival perception, even allow such exaggerations? How does one make sense of such a universe, that can be interpreted from such an exaggerated perspective? I say only from the critical thinking, learned by us, from the finite perspective, applied to the infinite and sub-quantum perspectives. And I further say, all the finite laws of physics and nature apply to the universe's entirety. If you don't think so, just try to make sense of the above singularity vision. Now, what do you think?

Regards,
Lloyd

p.s.
From the above, I have deduced the equivalence principle of mass and gravity___Mass is the total velocity density of all absolute substance/matter, measured___Gravity is also the total velocity density of all absolute substance/matter, measured___attracting. This can be proved by attaching a cesium controlled, atomatically and instantaneously accurate radio signaling scale, above a suspended atomic bomb___as it starts its fission to fusion process, just before explosion___it will increase in weight...

Since this is early intuitive reasoning, I may be wrong, but I don't think so...

[theunify]

Gillepsie, this is a startling admission of a Universe controlled by God the supreme being. Once we define what is outside of our window, what is outside of outside of our window and so on?

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by theunify

Gillepsie, this is a startling admission of a Universe controlled by God the supreme being. Once we define what is outside of our window, what is outside of outside of our window and so on?

Foolish people always add in what is not there. Did you forget this is a thought experiment of imagination___nothing more. You better read the science books a little closer... Pay particular attention to scientific, analytic and theoretical reasoning...

[mkirkpatrick]

Interesting idea Lloyd,many years ago I tried this very experiment you mention,I imagined that I was beyond Alpha and Omega,before the universe even came into being,
there was just a wonderful silky black void,that was eternal and absolute,and ,may I add
very peaceful,in fact it was a peace that passed my understanding at the time! There was
of course no universal laws in evidence,as I had translated the universe,and was in the Void.

So thank you Lloyd for reminding me of such a wonderful meditation that I experienced
all those years ago,thank you!


regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

Interesting idea Lloyd,many years ago I tried this very experiment you mention,I imagined that I was beyond Alpha and Omega,before the universe even came into being,
there was just a wonderful silky black void,that was eternal and absolute,and ,may I add
very peaceful,in fact it was a peace that passed my understanding at the time! There was
of course no universal laws in evidence,as I had translated the universe,and was in the Void.

So thank you Lloyd for reminding me of such a wonderful meditation that I experienced
all those years ago,thank you!

regards michael.

I first experienced this state long, long ago also, in Oct. 1972, to be exact, but unlike you, I finally realized its full interpretation in Feb. 2007...

regards,

[mkirkpatrick]

it is nice to share past memories Lloyd,is time changing,or are we?btw Q of star trek did seem to have an achilles heel?


regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Now, let's see what can be further deduced from this virtual absolute perception. Since it allows such a bird's eye view of the entire evolutionary processes of the universe, it may be far more promising, than I had first realised. Let's use this virtual Q perspective to entirely dis-assemble the total finite universe, down to its absolute sub-quantum fundamental substance. First, can this be done? I say, yes it can!

1.Let's take light first. Light exists as em radiation. As far as we know it's first origin is from the first singularity explosion, better known as the big-bang. Quantum mechanics states its velocity at this first event was somewhere around c*2^20ms[meters/second]. If this be so, we know that all light of the known universe is slowing, so, if it is slowing, that means it will slow all the way to the tG^tG perspective point. Let's arbitrarily set that velocity at c^-tGms, a very minimal velocity. Such velocity would be compatible with other properties of the sub-quantum fundamental substance, that will be developed in the following points.
2.Next, let's take electrons, protons and neutrons, etc., as they relate closely to the slowing of light. We already know the numbers exist for total radiation decay of all finiteness, at some 10^137 years, so what happens on this long journey? Since Q exists far beyond this light/radiation decay point, with our virtual perception, we should be able to witness the total dis-integration of all electrons, protons and neutrons, at the edge of their respective radiation decay cones. As the velocity of their mass/gravity slows, their pseudo-shells[for particle physicists] will begin to be weakened, and their internal velocities will start to radiate out, as the entire singularity releases all its velocity energy, heading to tG^tG point. Somewhere between 10^100 years and tG^tG years, all its mass/gravity velocity energy will have dissipated into the absolute fundamental sub-quantum substance, since it's all mass/gravity velocity wave/substance density to begin with.
3.Next, let's take a look at the uncertainty principle, as it also decays, or slows down, so we may be able to see inside its workings. The uncertainty principle decays to the slow motions of the absolute certainty principle of fundamental substance, at the edge of the decay cones, also. Looking inside it is the same as looking at points 1. & 2.
4.Vacuum has an interesting journey, as well. Many have theorized where vacuum comes from, and I dis-agree with all present theories. I say vacuum was produced and is maintained by the initial hot big-bang explosion, and its continueing expansion. Others state that all space is a vacuum, and I dis-agree with this also, here's why. Since 1. 2. & 3. points already deal with all finite universal decay, the vacuum would also have a finite cone of existence. As the finite universe decays into the sub-quantum fundamental substance, the vacuum dis-appears completely from the universe, somewhere between 10^137 years to tG^tG years. Thus, vacuum is a finite substance space of the total infinite universe. Q vision's absolute tG^tG point exists far beyond any such vacuum space, in the absolute fundamental sub-quantum substance space.
5.Electricity is a substance of substance velocity radiation. Classical, quantum and relative physics have never accounted for its fundamental causes, completely. If we look at Carver Mead's "Collective Electrodynamics", he offers a very simple example of quantum electrodynamics, in a continueous loop super-conductive storage condensor ring. The wave aspect of electricity extends backward and forward in time. Could this be its link to the sub-quantum world? I say yes, it is, but as 1. 2. 3. & 4. points show, electricity must also decay, as it's of the motion of substance, and all finite motion is decaying, along with electricity, that most famous of love's of quantum physicists. In the final analyses electricity decays to its minimal state motions, say c^-tGcm, in the absolute sub-quantum fundamental substance.
6.Weak and strong nuclear forces are of the fission and fusion states of finite motions, first created in the big-bang, and other stars, black holes etc. As of 1. to 5., these also must decay to the absolute ground state of fundamental substance.
7.Mass and gravity, which have mystified physicists for centuries, also must decay, to the absolute sub-quantum fundamental state of substance at tG^tG. Since mass and gravity are equivalent as the velocity densities of all substances, we can add them into the decay picture as per above, nothing special, just decay of fundamental velocities of substance/matter.
8.Aether is an interesting phenomena that's been with us since the Upanishads and early Greeks. Many particle physicists don't accept the existence of the aether, but most quantum and classical physicists do. The particle physicists had better start explaining comet tails' motions, if they can't accept the aether. The aether also must decay, as it exists only to the edge of the radiation and light cones, beyond cmbr, but still does not stand when 1. through 7. have decayed to the fundamental substance, and again somewhere between 10^137 years and tG^tG years hence.
9.All quantumization of space must also decay into the fundamental linear non-quantumized sub-quantum motions of fundamental substance, at the distant Q point, and at minimal velocity of c^-tGcm. Notice I'm not stopping the one degree of freedom of motion, yet.
10.Relativity is no more than the total velocities of mass densities under discussion. Since it's only a measurement, decay isn't an issue, but at least we can see through all its metaphysical illusions.
11.Minkowsky, Setterfield and Einstein Quantumized space all decay into infinite fundamental non-quantumized sub-quantum linear substance space.
12.Time, being just a measure of substance distance is just our abstract understanding in the real world. All understanding decays into the absolute fundamental mechanical substance.
13.Temperature, last of all temperature, the tricky substance, or is it? We know it most as hot and cold. It's always been with us and the universe. As of the finite universe, I define it as heat, even the 3.7k of deep space. As of 1. through 12. all heat must decay from the universe, when all other motions decay, but this leaves us with only one entity that does not decay___cold___it increases with decay___the only thing that increases, with all of total finite decay. So what is this magic element? What are its powers?

Of all the tools at absolute fundamental sub-quantum linear substance's disposal, to rebuild another universe___what has the power to do such a thing? The sub-quantum theory of universal evolution___cold___the prime mover! Just as cold, i.e., temperature, i.e., thermodynamics, freezes water and creates massive energy potential with ice, the opposite thermodynamic force, heat, boils water into steam and creates massive energy potential, thermodynamics' hydrodynamics is our mystery universe builder___the only prime self-mover of all decay options. It's powers only increase as we exaggerate its 0k temperature, at the tG^tG years and temperature point of 0k^-tG degrees___the absolute prime mover of sub-quantum absolute linear substance!

Regards,
Lloyd