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Originally Posted by subversion I guess it's all just a matter of how you look at it | YES!!!! TRUE!!!! CORRECT!!!!!
That, my friend, is the one unique true correct statement about any philosophical thought or collection of thoughts.
To Antonio and Michael:
The universe can't be inside the mind because that would mean that your universe (your mind) contains all the other universes, mine, his, hers, theirs, Einstein's, Hussein's and Alexander the great's. But it doesn't. Because it would imply, that all thoughts of each of the minds, which are the mind itself actually, would be thoughts of your universe. So then you are god.
Here it's good to quote the intellectual I most admire, Russell:
"Every man would like to be God, if it were possible; some few find it difficult to admit the impossibility."
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10-20-2005, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by <<>> YES!!!! TRUE!!!! CORRECT!!!!!
That, my friend, is the one unique true correct statement about any philosophical thought or collection of thoughts.
To Antonio and Michael:
The universe can't be inside the mind because that would mean that your universe (your mind) contains all the other universes, mine, his, hers, theirs, Einstein's, Hussein's and Alexander the great's. But it doesn't. Because it would imply, that all thoughts of each of the minds, which are the mind itself actually, would be thoughts of your universe. So then you are god.
Here it's good to quote the intellectual I most admire, Russell:
"Every man would like to be God, if it were possible; some few find it difficult to admit the impossibility."
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Philosophers are either unsuccessful scientists or failed artists. | We are all begotten of the one-and as such have the potential of Becoming!
To become fully self-realized man can indeed be God-like, but not today! Perhaps tomorrow. The mind is absolute and has within it All-of All. And that includes infinity of infinities, multi-verses, and just about anything else, including the kitchen-sink!
Kind regards, Michael.
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10-20-2005, 04:48 AM
Michael,
The aim of human life and existence is to achieve perfection. But this is impossible.
The first statement implies the second and the second implies the first. The aim couldn't be something achievable, because then existence would exist for itself. Thus it has to be something impossible to achieve. And because it's something impossible to achieve, it is the aim.
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10-20-2005, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GUILLE contains all the other universes, mine, his, hers, theirs, Einstein's, Hussein's and Alexander the great's. | My mind's universe does not contain your mind's universe. Each is a quantum universe. When our minds are connected then they formed a bigger quantum universe. When all minds (don’t know how many there are?) are connected then the universe becomes continuous with respect to the totality of all these minds.
Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: ¶a(t)·¶r(t)=c²
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The aim couldn't be something achievable, because then existence would exist for itself. | if existence doesn't exist for itself, what does it exist for?
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10-21-2005, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by subversion what is a nonlinear time operator? | This is what most theoretical physicists would like to have. Time is a parameter in both quantum mechanics and general relativity. What is worst in general relativity, it is combined with space. Most of the operators found in quantum mechanics are linear operators. In fact, there is no such thing as a nonlinear operator. This is even more impossible for time. The linear operators of quantum mechanics are all self-adjoint operators in order to describe physical observables. However, we all know from our experience that time is not a physical observable. Therefore it cannot be operated by a linear operator.
Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: ¶a(t)·¶r(t)=c²
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10-21-2005, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by subversion if existence doesn't exist for itself, what does it exist for? | I was typing too fast then, as always, that's the reason for my mistakes.
It’s actually supposed to be "wouldn't exist for itself". And, if something doesn't exist for itself, as Teilhard de Chardin described in his books of the consciousness of matter, then it doesn't exist at all (this is also helped by Descartes' "Cogito ergo sum").
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10-22-2005, 11:34 AM
The greatest illusion ever to blind man and keep him forever in bondage is that we are all separate from each other, the attitude of "what’s it got to do with you" you are nothing to me! When we all can realize that we are and always have been connected to each other, interconnected with all life, for life comes from life.
then the illusion of separateness will be smashed, and we will see that the whole human race is really One family. From one source, from one mind. When that is finally realized by most of the folks, then the illusion of having to fight one another will no longer arise, and seem rather absurd. then we can step outside of lie and deception into the light of truth.
Kind regards, Michael.
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11-04-2005, 12:23 PM
Illusions or unreal conceptions of reality I think exist in incredible numbers and varieties. When their dysfunctionality becomes evident we get rid of them. See fear (useful or otherwise), see women (reproduction), revolutions, wealth - without illusions I probably wouldn't get out of bed unless hungry. That's no illusion.
We can make ourselves do things by manufacturing illusions. Some call it motivation. Malfunctioning illusions do occur either by out-staying their usefulness or by being misconceived in the first place.
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