illusions are they all in the mind.?

mkirkpatrick · 01:30 PM

I remember being made aware once. I came across a document that said
we are all illusions. Thoughts made manifest by an absolute being.

That we have a relative reality where we go about our business, live
and die, and also an absolute reality of which we know little about.

The connection between these two states seemed to be for want
of a better name, the soul.

Over the years, I have given this much thought. Is my life and yours
just an illusion? I am inclined to say that yes, it is an illusion, but a real
one. And that some day I will awaken from this dream, and find that
there is but one life, thankfully, we are all aboard.

Regards, Michael.

david44 · 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

I remember being made aware once. I came across a document that said we are all illusions. Thoughts made manifest by an absolute being.

That we have a relative reality where we go about our business, live
and die, and also an absolute reality of which we know little about.

The connection between these two states seemed to be for want
of a better name, the soul.

Over the years I have given this much thought. Is my life and yours
just an illusion? I am inclined to say that yes it is an illusion, but a real
one. And that some day I will awake from this dream, and find that
there is but one life,thankfully, we are all aboard.

Regards, Michael.

I read a book once called Jonathon Livingston Seagull; in it the illusion, as you have expressed, was that we have the ability to change the make up of who we are based on the energy that makes us what we are, and that we are not limited by anything in life other than the limitations we put upon ourselves. My understanding of this was simply that we will only remain with the limits we have in our life because of our conformity to how other people want to see us, and therefore by changing our perceptions of ourselves we will be able to break through the barriers that stop us moving forward.

Cheers, David.

http://theuniversalcodeofliving.com

mkirkpatrick · 08:27 AM

When we wake from a dream, it then can seem like an illusion, but if we were never to wake, what then? Would we know what was real and what was fantasy!
I very much doubt it.

Kind regards, Michael.

Guille · 02-14-2006, 12:19 PM

What kind of illusions?

Some illusions are shared in society. They are 'cultural illusions', therefore exist in the exterior world and yet are part of the mental world. Some examples are: perfection, infinity, god, morals...

Unreal Zelta · 09:06 AM

Personally, I quite like the idea from The Matrix, that we are living in a preprogrammed, preordered, illusory world, controlled by people(or beings) living in the "real" world.

Best regards

Zelta

Guille · 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal Zelta

Personally, I quite like the idea from The Matrix, that we are living in a preprogrammed, preordered, illusory world, controlled by people(or beings) living in the "real" world.

I share the same idea. A much better film with the same message is Cronenberg's 'Existenz'.

ANDY J · 03-17-2006, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

When we wake from a dream, it then can seem like an illusion, but if we were never to wake, what then? Would we know what was real and what was fantasy!
I very much doubt it.

kindregard michael.

Whilst driving around yesterday i imagined a future where vehicles would be controlled by the global positioning systems the start is already underway with gps used for navigation the next step will be a computer controlled car linked to gps the computer would make its own decisions about avoiding obstacles etc and the gps would find you the best route this i know is already being developed.
This got me thinking could god/the universe being the ultimate gps we/our brains make every day decisions but our overall route and the route of all things is planned and directed.
When considering the complexity of a gps system for all the vehicles of the planet and to think humanity has the wherewithal to construct this, surely the designer of the universe could have created a universal gps.
What medium might be used to transmit instruction back and forth.

mkirkpatrick · **the mind that moves can also still? -** 03-17-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ANDY J

Whilst driving around yesterday i imagined a future where vehicles would be controlled by the global positioning systems the start is already underway with gps used for navigation the next step will be a computer controlled car linked to gps the computer would make its own decisions about avoiding obstacles etc and the gps would find you the best route this i know is already being developed.
This got me thinking could god/the universe being the ultimate gps we/our brains make every day decisions but our overall route and the route of all things is planned and directed.
When considering the complexity of a gps system for all the vehicles of the planet and to think humanity has the wherewithal to construct this, surely the designer of the universe could have created a universal gps.
What medium might be used to transmit instruction back and forth.

What an excellent thought!Andy J,That may very well be the case?
kind regards michael.

harmonygirl · **does that mean gps are thinking? -** 03-17-2006, 01:35 PM

What an interesting idea, Andyj. the only thing I would like to add, is if the cars are already programmed with gps to avoid stuff, eventually, will the journey be necessary at all?

baudrunner · 03-17-2006, 02:31 PM

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I remember being made aware once.

You should have hung on to it!

But seriously, I foresee a possible world order where we all become blobs because machines replace everything humans used to do for themselves, like drive. You saw what happened with ABS, wherever it rains and or snows frequently they have caused more accidents than prevented them. They have more components that can go wrong and people drive around with them the way they are because they still brake.