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    The Collins dictionary says of illusion "a false appearance or deceptive impression of."
    I tend to think that illusion and glamour seem to have us all firmly in its grasp. The glamour aspect of it suggests that we not answer, and the illusion aspect cons us into thinking that this is so?
    The problem of illusions lies in not that it is a soul activity, and the result of the mind aspect of all the souls in manifestation. It is the soul which is submerged in the illusion, and the soul fails to see with clarity until such time as it has learned to pour light of the soul through into the mind and the brain.
    It is in meditation and the technique of mind control that the thinkers of the world will begin to rid the world of illusion. Hence the increasing interest in meditation as the weight of the world glamour is increasingly realized and hence, the vital necessity for right understanding of the way of mind control.
    Intuition can dispel illusion and can in turn lessen the glamour. We then can hopefully step outside of the false necessity feign and see life as it truly is without the blinker of illusion causing shadows and dark areas to step into the sunlight, so to speak.
    We seem to be caught up in a fog of glamour and illusion,there are so many,
    the number of glamours that pervade us our very very,many,It is only when
    we can with insight and with a modicum of humilty,begin to dismantle this
    illusionary fog that surrounds us.Our (own) egos tell us that we are apart and
    seperate fromone another,thisis a liefostered by glamour and fed by the ego.
    we are in effect allconnected and interconnected,but the ego resents this Idea.
    and will try every trickin the book tokeep you apart from your rightful heritage.
    kind regards michael.
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    Cool glamour?

    Michael, I'm not sure about the reason for "glamour" to be in with illusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harmonygirl
    Michael, I'm not sure about the reason for "glamour" to be in with illusion.
    I suppose they are one of the same,although there is a shading aspect to it,ie,illusion can often be "seen" To decieve the eye,while
    glamour can be "seen" to decieve the mind?The ego and the amount of self-
    centerness that one has also of course count!
    thank you for your question H.G.

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    Cool Glamour?

    Michael, not to quibble (but...) there are many different aspects to illusion. Glamour seems quite trite compared to say, arrogance or conceit. Plus, I think it is an adjective that is usually only applied to women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harmonygirl
    Michael, not to quibble (but...) there are many different aspects to illusion. Glamour seems quite trite compared to say, arrogance or conceit. Plus, I think it is an adjective that is usually only applied to women.
    You have every right to quibble,and you are right of course about
    Glamour,that is how it is generally understood in the west,and does seem to
    relate to females,but in the east,where most of my ideas come from,and I
    have studied for many many years,Glamour,is seen,as a fog,that surrounds
    us,and is fed by the ego,It is a vast subject,covering,many thousands of pages
    most can go through there lives and be totally unaware of its presence within,
    such as its abilty to hide within,unseen,like a cancer!!

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    Michael, I think we'll have to disagree. The miasma that you refer to as the fog of glamour seems to me to be more appropriately (and equitably) termed arrogance. This applies equally to men and women (I wasn't aware that glamour applied to men, east or west) and is without redeeming qualities as a term. I think of glamour as a vainglorious pursuit, egotistical yes, but along the lines of pride, which is bad if taken to extreme. I guess I can't help to quibble over words, occupational hazard!
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    With the rapid growth of advertisment which is everywhere you look these days,the glamour and the illusion is growing deeper,with so many buying into the utter lies,and deceitful stories they pass of as scientific facts,in particular beauty and anti-aging creams
    which are mostly worthless junk done up in a pretty and expensive tiny bottles.

    They spread lies and give false hope,and there power grows stronger by the day.
    regards michael.
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    Re: Illusion and glamour two headed beast.

    I have to agree with Michael that glamor is all about illusion. Even if we take a glamourous model that looks good without make-up, the "glamor" aspect is gone. I also agree with his dim view of glamor. Glamor ties people to worldly matters, and makes hedonism into a false god.

    Harmonygirl, I do agree that there are worse illusions than glamor, such as the ones you mentioned. That does not mean that a lesser evil is okay.
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    Smile Re: Illusion and glamour two headed beast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elizabeth View Post
    I have to agree with Michael that glamor is all about illusion. Even if we take a glamourous model that looks good without make-up, the "glamor" aspect is gone. I also agree with his dim view of glamor. Glamor ties people to worldly matters, and makes hedonism into a false god.

    Harmonygirl, I do agree that there are worse illusions than glamor, such as the ones you mentioned. That does not mean that a lesser evil is okay.
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    Thanks Elizabeth,Just looking at some of these tacky "shows" on tv,so called dating
    games,some of these shows are drifting towards soft-porn.We are bombarded with
    adverts telling us all sorts of lies and offering false hopes,glamour and illusion are
    all around us these days.


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