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11-29-2006, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by yogi just for few seconds, so seek something which is etenal | Maybe for him, not me. I'm a gusher, he calls me "zhiva voda", that means living water. Quote: | Humans do not survive more than 110 years, compare that to the age of cosmos!!! | Wouldn't God be older? Quote: | this existence is just a fliker on cosmic time scale | I have no sense of time so it makes no difference to me! Quote: |
which dwindles as one ages
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who was the creator of Mother ?
| Nature! Of course! Quote:
. Please enlighten us about the nature of GOD and how he relates to TOEQUEST. IMHO all the feeling you described are targeted towards a human and not to GOD, if it were you are posting this from heaven. To that welcome ET to TOEQUEST. sincerely, Yogi | Thank you. Hey, how did I lose the red? | | | | 1st degree Black Belt Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 253
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11-29-2006, 08:48 PM
| | Re: Who is your God? (or not) Sillysally,
Brahman or Universal Mind (Satan) uses sex to ensure His survival at the expense of human survival. The Universal Mind is a parasite deriving its life force from humans through sex while depriving the human of their survival through the loss of their life force.
This is a false God - a misfit love - controlling and imprisoning us through chemistry in the brain and the stupor that these chemicals produce keeps us from seeing and understanding the illusion that is swallowing us up.
This God of pleasure is seen for what it really is - when we age - when we are dis-eased - when we decay - when we experience sorrow through loss of loved ones - when we are at war - when we see human trafficking in the sex trade - when we hear of sexual abuse of children and child pornography - when we see aids - and when we die.
The end of human life with the God of pleasure or sex is death for humans while the God of pleasure i.e. Universal Mind lives on at our expense.
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11-30-2006, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Infinite Consciousness Sillysally,
Brahman or Universal Mind (Satan) uses sex to ensure His survival at the expense of human survival. The Universal Mind is a parasite deriving its life force from humans through sex while depriving the human of their survival through the loss of their life force.
This is a false God - a misfit love - controlling and imprisoning us through chemistry in the brain and the stupor that these chemicals produce keeps us from seeing and understanding the illusion that is swallowing us up.
This God of pleasure is seen for what it really is - when we age - when we are dis-eased - when we decay - when we experience sorrow through loss of loved ones - when we are at war - when we see human trafficking in the sex trade - when we hear of sexual abuse of children and child pornography - when we see aids - and when we die.
The end of human life with the God of pleasure or sex is death for humans while the God of pleasure i.e. Universal Mind lives on at our expense.
WAKE UP !!!!! | I know he is the anti-christ, even my dad told me. He wants me to make peace with him and release him from his restraining order, I don’t trust him. Be forewarned, when he does finally roam free, he does what he wants. Although his wants are limited to material, even my physical body, he says he possesses me. He does not understand what spirit is which makes him stupid and dangerous. There is no timing or telling what will happen next because everything coincides as before current past. But, a lot happens in a short amount of time. He saw me reading the bible, punched me in the leg, took it away from me and burned it. He told me he is god and if I have any questions about the bible, I should ask him since he wrote it. It doesn’t bother me when he hits me, I can block the physical pain, it’s when he tries to take my spirit away, that hurts. But he is completely unaware of what is going on because of the internal bruising (lump the size of a ping pong ball on his frontal lobe) from the weight lifting accident. I’ve tried to help him but sh!t phuck, I don’t think that brain damage can be fixed. He is not a man, he blackmailed me using his own child as my punishment.
I have to play nice while I still have control of him. Once he is out of my control, he becomes a wild animal and will use his Bulgarian passport as his ticket to roam the world because they are a part of the EU and his only means of freedom. If he is deported and sent back to where he came from, he still has a Seaman passport which allows him access on international water and he commits insurance fraud to get free money without having to work for it (it never lasts long, his pockets have holes burnt in them). The united states must put a stop to allowing alien residents access to financial credit and insurance, immigrants take it and run. US citizens pay for it with high rates.
I am awake and I can’t fall back asleep. This can’t be enlightenment because all I see is darkness. It’s beyond what is known because it is more than power, it’s total control. Hoping or wishing won’t change or make anything happen, I have to say it as it is and it is. He has that power too but I counter his attacks when he says something I don‘t want to happen, I have more clout in this department. The danger comes with what I say or write, it opens a portal, although everything happens according to plans that are not my ideas. I lie to him, he only believes my lies, he does not know honesty. And when I am honest, he accuses me of lying so I have no choice but to lie to keep the peace.
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11-30-2006, 10:40 AM
| | Re: Who is your God? (or not) QUOTE
Tell me why me.
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Sally, beautiful - wonderful spirit - called Sally - it is not just you it is everyone in this physical-material universe that He is fooling. It is time we see through His game and see Him for what He truly is i.e.a profound illusion.
He is the vast storehouse of memories the unfathomable lake of subliminal impressions, and the science of spirit aims at freeing the inner man or spirit from these fetters.
It is the finest and rarefied principle in matter that constitutes chit or the little self (ego) in humans. Though in itself, it is essentially unconscious, it is subject to modifications by the operation of the three-fold gunas. It has also the capacity to contract and expand according to the nature of the body in which it is lodged from time to time, or according to the surrounding circumstances.
This "chit or Mind," though apparently bounded in each individual, is in fact a part of the all-pervading universal mind. The yoga systems aim at transforming the limited and conditioned mind into limitless and unconditioned Universal Mind, by developing the satva (pure) and by subduing the rajas (active) and tamas (dense) gunas or qualities.
In this state, yogins acquire omniscience, being one with the Universal Mind (Brahman). Chit is the reflecting mirror for the soul, and exists for chaitanmaya, or matter quickened by soul, which is self- luminous and in whose spiritual light takes place all perception, including the light of knowledge, mental and supramental.
The subliminal impressions (thoughts as stored memories) in the chit (mind) cause desires and interest, which in turn produce potencies, and these lead to personality, thus setting the wheel of the world in perpetual motion.
When once the soul is freed from the chit (mind), manas (thoughts), budhi(intellect), and ahankar (the little self ego), it comes into its own, and becomes passionlesss and depersonalized. This is the great deliverance which yoga promises to yogins.
At this severance from the four-fold fetters of the mind, the embodied soul (jiva) becomes a freed soul (atman), unindividualized, self luminous, and attains realization as such. "Self-realization" then is the highest aim of yoga.
Yoga presupposes two factors that account for the creation of the world: (1) Ishwar or God and (2) Avidya or Maya (illusion). While the former is all intelligent, the latter is altogether unintelligent. Man too is a combination of these two basic principles.
Jiva or the individual soul though intrinsically of the same essence as that of God, is encased in mind and matter.
The soul, conditioned as it is in the time -space-cause world cannot see the reality, the "atman" or the Divine Ground, in which it rests and from where it gets its luminosity. While antahkaran, or the mind, is the reflector, the atman is the illuminator, the light of which is reflected through the senses that perceive the world.
The world then is the conjunction of the "seer" and the "seen." The detachment of this conjunction is the escape, and perfect insight is the means of escape. Salvation therefore lies in the isolation of the seer from the seen, the complete detachment of the subjective from all that is objective: physical, mental, and causal, so that the "Self" which is the seer, may see itself in its own luminosity or "Light of the Void," as it is called.
To free the individual soul from the shackles of mind and matter, the science of spirituality insists on (1) concentration (meditation), (2) active effort or striving, which involves the performance of devotional exercises (i.e. meditation on the Light & Sound of God or the Formative Sound of Creation), and mental discipline.
To sum up in brief the Universal Mind is not conscious it is usurping our consciousness as attention (the outer expression of the soul) and subverting the souls qualities to its own qualities of lust - anger - greed - attachment - and ego. If you return the attention to its source the soul within you - that will empower your soul - it will take charge of the attention and the soul will recover its natural control over the mind and senses. | | | | Green Belt
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11-30-2006, 07:08 PM
| | Re: Who is your God? (or not) a wise quote for universal consciousness from Vedanta
The Absolute Reality which is the fundamental cause of the universe and all beings is full (beyond all limitations which can be caused by time, space, and material). It is pure, free indivisible and homogeneous Consciousness. The individual self ( jiva) which appears limited by time, space, and material, or name and form, is also full, pure, free, indivisible and homogeneous Consciousness. The individual Consciousness (self) which is full has come from that Absolute Consciousness which is also full. Here comes a discrepancy. How can something full come from something that is also full and still both remain full? This disparity is solved by the illustration of space. Space is recognized as full, free, pure, boundless, unattached, all-pervading, indivisible and homogeneous. When a barrier is erected in space, we say the space is divided and call it "room space, limited space," etc. If there is dust or contamination in the room, we say the space in the room is dusty or impure. We all know that space cannot be divided or become impure. It is always full, free, pure and indivisible. The divisions are assumed due to the barriers we construct in space. Similar is the nature of the Absolute Consciousness which is the Supreme Reality. Nothing can ever come from It. It alone exists. The separate individuality which one feels is due to the limiting adjuncts of body-mind complex which are, in reality, illusory appearances like dream objects or mirage seen in a desert or a rope mistakenly seen as a snake in dim light. When viewed in its real nature as Pure Consciousness alone, divested of its limitations, the individual Self is known to be one and the same Absolute Consciousness.
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11-30-2006, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by yogi a wise quote for universal consciousness from Vedanta
The Absolute Reality which is the fundamental cause of the universe and all beings is full (beyond all limitations which can be caused by time, space, and material). It is pure, free indivisible and homogeneous Consciousness. The individual self ( jiva) which appears limited by time, space, and material, or name and form, is also full, pure, free, indivisible and homogeneous Consciousness. The individual Consciousness (self) which is full has come from that Absolute Consciousness which is also full. Here comes a discrepancy. How can something full come from something that is also full and still both remain full? This disparity is solved by the illustration of space. Space is recognized as full, free, pure, boundless, unattached, all-pervading, indivisible and homogeneous. When a barrier is erected in space, we say the space is divided and call it "room space, limited space," etc. If there is dust or contamination in the room, we say the space in the room is dusty or impure. We all know that space cannot be divided or become impure. It is always full, free, pure and indivisible. The divisions are assumed due to the barriers we construct in space. Similar is the nature of the Absolute Consciousness which is the Supreme Reality. Nothing can ever come from It. It alone exists. The separate individuality which one feels is due to the limiting adjuncts of body-mind complex which are, in reality, illusory appearances like dream objects or mirage seen in a desert or a rope mistakenly seen as a snake in dim light. When viewed in its real nature as Pure Consciousness alone, divested of its limitations, the individual Self is known to be one and the same Absolute Consciousness. | Yogi,just a brief word of thanks, for your excellent post,I found it really uplifting,here where I am at the moment,in Maderia,it seems to be about gluttony and too too much
of everything,rows of concrete 5 star hotels all loaded to the gunnels with enough food
and wine to feed a nation,will be glad to get back home,your post my friend reminded
me of the finer things,that is beyond the price of cash os visa,american express!
regards michael.
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12-15-2006, 02:53 AM
| | Re: Who is your God? (or not) My God is invisible to even my mind. Its works, however, are not.
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12-15-2006, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric My God is invisible to even my mind. Its works, however, are not. | You know how the earth is alive, when you are buried it eats your brain. All of your thoughts are kept inside, all the words you have said continually circulate in the air, all of the stars look down on you and know your global position (they call it earthology). The sun feels your warmth and the moon sees the darkness surrounding you. Invisible or not, you are being recorded, alive and dead. You cannot escape mother earth, you remain invisible just like your God. | | | | 9th degree Black Belt
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12-15-2006, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric My God is invisible to even my mind. Its works, however, are not. | Prey tell___where's the scientific logical connection, Eric? Where's even the emotional connection___if it's invisible? Faith, you may say___what logic is that? Metaphysics can't describe the logical mechanical world, and mechanical logic doesn't even want to describe the metaphysical world___it chooses direct cognition of the facts___true objects inferred into logic, and calculations, thereof___something absolutely true, absolutely true math, can work on.
regards,
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12-15-2006, 01:32 PM
| | Re: Who is your God? (or not) If anything God is an IT.
The IT that doesn't have to come from nothing.
The logic involved, is not only one of ABSOLUTELY TRUE, but also one of ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Can't have one without the other.
The mechanical world is not all there is and the male is NOT more than the female.
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