[chazzysaw]

Originally Posted by subversion

to put it simply, it is mother nature because sexual species evolved from asexual ones, asexual species procreate by anagenesis, and anagenesis occurrs in the female body, not the male. Therefore mother nature. Do you understand that? Now the reason why it is Father time is a secret of mine, but suffice to say the secret is that a male discovers time travel. That's because I've discovered the scientific theory of everything (although scientific, it's also religiously cool and philosophically profound). Oops, but I won't tell you the theory of everything unless you believe me. But forget that, ask yourself this, why did history choose to call it mother nature and father time?

-SubVersion

No I dont understand that. To put it simpler Nature has no sex male or female. Nature is a natural phenomenon of Gaia it involves all species whether they're asexual or any other sexual. Mother is just a name given by man. Do you understand that? Your secret for father time you can keep it a secret. Time travel is imposible anyway. You're right I dont believe you discovered the TOE.

[chazzysaw]

Originally Posted by <<>>

Yes. But this is not a reversible relationship. The humans depend on the universal development (if that's what you call god), but universal development (or god) is not dependent on humans. There could have been universal development without humans, but there couldn't have been humans without universal development.

Universal development is a word I use to decribe the movement of the universe like evolution. Yes I agree, like I said humans are the result of the universe, humans depend on it, but not religion, or language.

[harmonygirl]

Chazzysaw,
I find the Goddess in the eyes of loved ones. Have you ever inhaled deeply in the midst of a forest? I have climbed only one mountain, but she was waiting for me at the peak at sunrise and also in a very old church in Asia. I have also found the Goddess in those people who give up their seats on public transit to nursing mothers, the brilliant eyes of wrinkled old people and the two soprano aria in Lakme. Maybe it's not a question of where you see her, it's a question of being open to it....

[Guille]

Originally Posted by chazzysaw

Universal development is a word I use to decribe the movement of the universe like evolution. Yes I agree, like I said humans are the result of the universe, humans depend on it, but not religion, or language.

Actually religion, science, language... By being all human, they depend on human and therefore depend utimatelly on universal development/evolution. If the next generation is born with ana avarge 20 IQ higher than the present ones, then science will advance much more, religion will be more abandondoned and language will eventually dissapear for we will communicate one day by mental sings.

[Marko]

Originally Posted by <<>>

Actually religion, science, language... By being all human, they depend on human and therefore depend utimatelly on universal development/evolution. If the next generation is born with ana avarge 20 IQ higher than the present ones, then science will advance much more, religion will be more abandondoned and language will eventually dissapear for we will communicate one day by mental sings.

What do you think under "mental signs" ? Some kind of "telepathy" , or something else?

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Marko

What do you think under "mental signs" ? Some kind of "telepathy" , or something else?

Yes. It will signify the ultimate achievement of intelligence. Being able to communicate pure ideas and feelings. Artists, however goo dthey are, can make you feel something similar to what they felt, but not exactly. With telepathic communication, everything will be exact. The thought I have about 'liberty' will come perfectly to your mind,a nd so you will understand it (but not neccesarilly agree). But I want to add that I'm not sure if it's possible or jsut fiction, it's dificult to know.

[Marko]

Originally Posted by <<>>

Yes. It will signify the ultimate achievement of intelligence. Being able to communicate pure ideas and feelings. Artists, however goo dthey are, can make you feel something similar to what they felt, but not exactly. With telepathic communication, everything will be exact. The thought I have about 'liberty' will come perfectly to your mind,a nd so you will understand it (but not neccesarilly agree). But I want to add that I'm not sure if it's possible or jsut fiction, it's dificult to know.

I agree. That would be a stunning possibility, but I am not sure is it within our reach. Moreover, I think that deep empathy and deep altruism is more likely to be our final achievement, and pure telepathy will stay theoretical.

[mkirkpatrick]

My God is Life-Itself.It is the One about which nought can be said,why cannot
nought be said? Because of what LIFE really IS we know Zero,back of all mind,
back of all existance,all projected matter,and energy.and light,and radiation,
back of all known and unknown universes,lies the central Thing,which is life,
where we all come from,and return too.but about which we know nothing.
My God is a dark Flame,and it has me within its fiery grasp,I am safe,as our we all.

nice to be back at the toe.

best regards michael.

[Mr. Nobody]

We are the constituents of God and there is no separate consciousness or entity for God, our thoughts is all there is.
Matter/energy, subject to competition and evolution reached out from the stars to look back at itself and marvel at a God as the creator, when in reality matter developed consciousness and emerged into a complex system that is looking for reason to explain itself within a universe without rhyme nor reason.
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[subversion]

Originally Posted by chazzysaw

No I dont understand that. To put it simpler Nature has no sex male or female. Nature is a natural phenomenon of Gaia it involves all species whether they're asexual or any other sexual. Mother is just a name given by man. Do you understand that? Your secret for father time you can keep it a secret. Time travel is imposible anyway. You're right I dont believe you discovered the TOE.

So why don't you tell me why it's called mother nature then?