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03-20-2006, 09:56 AM

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Is there any space for chaos in harmonics, or do you think there is absolute no harmony between these?
  
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where there is chaos there is harmony too!
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Smile where there is chaos there is harmony too! - 03-20-2006, 11:29 AM

Good question,Guille,"Is there any space for chaos in harmonics? Or do you think there is absolute no harmony between them"?I think that there is plenty
of space for chaos,Guille,if there was not,then the universal law of harmonics
would not exist!To be a universal law it has to be totally inclusive,or else it
will fail.What is a chaotic system?1)they are deterministic,they have something that is determining their behaviour.2)They are sensitive,especially
to changes in their initial conditions.Small changes in initial conditions can
cause enormous changes to the outcome,making the system very unpre-
dictable.(the butterfly effect)3)They "appear"to be disorderly and random,
but "they are not"underneath the random behaviour is "order and pattern"
which is of course where the law of harmonics holds all this "disorder" in its
all embracing tune!There is a new book recently published,called,Chaos and
harmony,Perspectives on scientific revolutions of the 20th century,by,Trin
Xuan Thaun,must buy myself a copy!
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Cool bien sur! - 03-20-2006, 11:35 AM

Michael, I agree. Harmonic vibrations underlie all systems. It has nothing to do with macro-organization. It is the essence of the building blocks we have discovered. Guille, I am curious why you would think chaos would affect harmony?


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Smile music and light will be alright/ - 03-21-2006, 08:36 PM

Have just been looking at some work done by Professor Brian D Josephson,
of Cavendish laboratory Cambridge,U.K. In particular a paper he published
called "What can music tell us about the nature ofthe mind".He goes on to say Quote,"Music should be seen as a phenomenon of trascendential
character,involving aspects of mind as yet unstudied by conventional
science"Unquote.I could not agree more!Our whole life is played out like
some melodious drama?Can we stay in tune!And another very important aspect to this harmonic interlude,is that within these notes,lie "colour"light
musical notes and harmonies are inextricably linked with light (radiance)
each note has its corresponding colour!This needs futher study.

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Cool music and sound! - 03-21-2006, 09:05 PM

Its funny that you should post that, Michael, because I have started to picture my charkras with colour, sound and movement ( as opposed to just colour) when I open them and what a difference it has made! Ther is something significant here (and that's not just the musician in me!)


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Smile Embrace me with that melody! - 03-25-2006, 12:04 AM

All matter resonates with a synchonous vibration and in unity with the grand
law of harmonics.As a science I feel that harmonic law presents the basis
for a unified field theory.There are other new "sciences" coming to the surface,unfolding,so to speak,these new sciences,synchronize various comb-
inations of light,sound,colour,motion,aroma,and tactile vibration with music.
These new methods can,and indeed do,help to heal and restore balance to
peoples lives.Harmonics is in effect,the "holding embrace"that "permits the
manifestation of matter"to remain stable and in tune??



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03-26-2006, 12:52 PM

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Michael, I agree. Harmonic vibrations underlie all systems. It has nothing to do with macro-organization. It is the essence of the building blocks we have discovered. Guille, I am curious why you would think chaos would affect harmony?
I've taken long to reply cause I'm having my exams soon. I thouht that chaos should affect or be at least strongly considerated whiles dealing with a harmonic description of the universe cause it is harmony's antithesis. I mean, a chaotic event/system is uncontrolled, unstabilized, unsymetric... And all the uns of words which are properties of harmony.

Michael, do you believe there is no space for free will, cause chaos theory agrees with you on the idea that undeterministism and randomness are illusions, just appearance. Is ther eno place for luck, too? (Match Point is a good film to see the Importance of being Lucky).
  
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Smile Luck plays no part. - 03-27-2006, 08:11 PM

Guille,Hope you do well in your exams my amigo.You asked did I believe in free will (its not entirely free you know?)Yes I do,but i would qualify that with
that there is free will,but only within the parameters of natural law.As regard
luck,I do not accept that it is real!Chance is I feel however different.If we
can be in tune with ourselves,with our surroundings,we begin to attract
harmony into our lives,which if persisted with,we will begin to notice a certain
synchronicity creeping in,this of course has nothing to do with luck,or wishes


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04-03-2006, 03:23 AM

I finished the exams, they were good. Now, about free will, ok, but do you believe that all events/systems are predicable or determined?

About 'lucky' of course I ment that they harmony, the conditions and factor for an event, a moment, a situation are nearer to the ideal or not. Some people (many adults tell me this) after 20 years end up very bad, and there isno particular reason, they hmight have been of the best students in calss, and had friends, and nothing very bad (like a death in his familly, or something) happened, but he simply failed in life. Whiles others, which you would never expect to be so well, ahve had a really good life. What causes this? Or is it simply that humans are so stupid as to not be able to see enough factors?
  
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04-03-2006, 09:45 PM

First of all "luck" is where "preparedness" meets "opportunity" and align.... in a series of synchronistic (instances) events to form the coincidence (moment).... where in our case the coincidence or moment is a universe.... we happened.... to be a bi product of.... did I or anyone predict this or was it determined by me or anyone else...???

Actually.... I knew this from previously explained historical events or moments.... which goes to show a certain amount of determination of the information rcvd... processed... stored and sent... I didnt predict that.... As the event is now past... and a prediction is really only a pre programmed response to an undetermined event... in a certain set of instances... quite possibly already determined.... and yet to be concluded... whether this be ideal or not is still yet to be determined.

Determination is a combination of wanting to get there... yet not knowing how.... while creation is knowing what you want and how to get there... the rest is however yet to be determined...
This Guille... will explain why some people succeed where others would normally fail...
Sometimes it is simply... that humans are so stupid as to not be able to see enough factors to either create or determine a moment?


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