[mkirkpatrick]

We have to deracinate and expose our minds to the possible facts that the
ancients,whom many still scoff at,had the answer tothe riddle of life,and the
secret of creation.That all "things" come from mind and return to mind,and
that includes us and the universe!


kind regards michael.

[harmonygirl]

rp, consciousness can be felt by the mother far sooner than 72 days. It depends. It is possible for consciousness to be felt within 1 week of conception...

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl rp, consciousness can be felt by the mother far sooner than 72 days. It depends. It is possible for consciousness to be felt within 1 week of conception...

I am sure that you are absolutely right there Harmony,and as never being
a mother myself!This life time anyway?But is that consciousness that stirs
in the womb,Harmony,or just the first motions of fresh in-formation??


kind regards michael/

[harmonygirl]

definitely consciousness. (which of course, is new information)

[mkirkpatrick]

Who am I to argue witha lady!I think that you are right,how could we really
tell otherwise anyway?

kind regards michael.

[Drifter]

Thanks Michael,

Imagine this as a sacred symbol Involuting and rotating at the center of the heart chakra which cleanses, opens also in the mind [cartouche`] as it widens the light columb at the centre of ones being up from the base of the spine. Grounded to the Earth as we physically are, let the symbol open within the very centre of our being to recieve the divine creative energy, a receptive pathway, a conduit, void of all things except unconditional love, to be filled with that divine creative energy/force.
Yes I know, it "out there" but, it's just a thought.

ps
It is easy to surmise that in deep space oevr trillions of years the gases in space eventually came inot contact by way of the vortices such a torus wold necessarily create, many things were/are likely to happen.
btw, The initial instigating force that set that/this in motion is referred to as "the *whim of god'.
*n.

1. A sudden or capricious idea; a fancy.
2. Arbitrary thought or impulse: governed by whim.

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick I would like to propose for a theory this following concept.Within the noumenon,in a transcentdantcy "outside of spacetime" where absolute motionlessness reigned supreme,there arose within that awesome void the point of a manifested Idea!The Point of the Idea,became the portal where the noumenon transfigured and translated into Phenomena,and ushered in the birth of manifestation,the universe as we hardly know it today.Thispoint of entry has been known by some as the Protyle atom.As this "concept" of manifestation rolled forever outwards,outforming the void,matter as we know it today did not exist,there was if you like a super dense form,which now has evolved into lighter form and fluid energy. This Idea of universal manifestation is still outworking,and will continue for a while longer?Well it is just a theory. kind regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Thanks Drifter for that really wonderful image,where do you get them from?

And thanks also for breathing life back into this old thread of mine.



regards michael

[Drifter]

It's my pleasure Michael, don't mention it.

As for the Images, I draw them from the Ethernet, when Impressed to do so...

The words, are the humble attempt at expressing the ineffable.

"It can be known" but it can't be expressed, maybe that's why it's called "sacred", i.e. secret.
[to do so-reveal the High to the low- would reduce the Divine to the vulgar]
Therefore it is said, "For thee[oneness of mind] it is to know, for them[seperated mind] it is not".

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Thanks Drifter for that really wonderful image,where do you get them from? And thanks also for breathing life back into this old thread of mine. regards michael

[melanie]

As for the Images, I draw them from the Ethernet, when Impressed to do so... The words, are the humble attempt at expressing the ineffable. "It can be known" but it can't be expressed, maybe that's why it's called "sacred", i.e. secret. [to do so-reveal the High to the low- would reduce the Divine to the vulgar] Therefore it is said, "For thee[oneness of mind] it is to know, for them[seperated mind] it is not".

High 5 brother drifter



love melanie.

[melanie]

a message from the third eye hey just messing with ya

the internet could be SEEN as the third eye though couldn't it eh?

Consciousness is a movement while awareness is motionless and completely stable.
There is no need to deny anything or to affirm anything. Everything flows as it does.
The sad story of ‘me’ is seen through and that just in itself is the most radical seeing there can be,
because in that seeing through, there is no concern for how things appear.
There is a knowing that it is all appearances and that they are nothing but awareness itself,
displaying itself as the whole the universe and every speck of dust.



That moon and those stars and the planets and rocks and birds and everything imaginable are 'you'
all appearances in awareness the ONE expressing and experiencing as myriad of form,
the human being no more superior than a blade of grass ..

maybe our brain got too big .. but hey we're only human

it's all too beautiful ...

it brings tears to my eyes


Love sweetness and unconditional love to all