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02-19-2008, 01:04 PM
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An idea of the Absolute is like unto a diamond,only infinitely more endurable,the seed thought that we are all contained within is still being realized by us,and is ongoing by our
conception,but done and dusted in the Absolutes NOWNESS?

One of the most difficult things to get ones head around is the reality and concept of now.
Now in the Absolutes point of Beingness is that of Absolute stillness and beyond mortal
conception,where there is--no universe,no worlds,no thing at all-save ITSELF-which is
LIFE as we cannot yet know it!

Our best concept of now is but a trillionth of millionth of ONE Degree of now,so we are pretty limited in understanding the very idea of being.

Now is as wide as an eternity and as narrow as 5 minutes,all is forever within the now.

Our egos will use every trick in the proverbial book to distract us from persuing inner
understanding and enlightenment-why is this you may well ask!Because the ego knows
that deepdown within your being it looses all cohesion and eventually dies a lingering
death,and it willfight tooth and nail in order to prevent you from "killing it"!

The "seed thought" is the "carrier"of all that is to become,and made manifest,it is the
dynamic idea that is the "WILL" of the sender,this seed thought contains all that is needed
for the IDEA to fully realize itself-Now-done and dusted in the Absolutes frame,many
billions of years now realised in our very narrow and limited conception of NOW!

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There is within us all a "homing beacon" a pulsating atom of the Absolute,this atom is a
aspect of the seed thought that reality is contained within,our task if we adhere to the
pulsations is to "home in" on this beacon,this is done by going within and trying to still
the rabbiting mind,usually though after we experience pain and loss.

It is a slow and ardous task that of getting to know the inner be-ing,and takes many
journeyings to and fro from life to life,until in a particular lifetime we awaken! And then
the transmuting process can and does indeed gain momentum,the pilgrim or traveler
along the way feels connected to the whole,and yet also feels a loss of the magnetic
egoic personality that once he was so proud of!


Sychronicity becomes almost a daily occurance as one tunes into finer and finer
vibrations of the primal seed-thought,one becomes more radio-active and magnetic
as the forces of expression become more coherent and the centres of force harmonise
to create a pulsating expression of the life-force.


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A great day suddenly dawns upon the would be pilgrim this day I will call the "Ignition point"this is the point that is reached by all seekers of the way home,it is a "point" of
soul re-cognizion and a magnetic link to the "seed thought" is established,when this is
felt by the would be quester of the way it fills the one with a "Sense of awe and wonder"
and grants a redoubling of effort and a feeling of sancified purposefullness.


Up to the "ignition point" all progress was exceedingly slow,and toiled with for many
lifetimes,now there comes "the quickening"as the soul and seed thought are magnetically
linked into the conscious awareness of the individual.


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02-24-2008, 06:45 PM
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Hundreds of thousands of beings around this planet at the present time are "hovering within the orbit of the ignition point"all it needs is one more little incident,one more little
sychronos event,that will act as a catalyst to bring about an awakening,a connection with
their soul,or as some would call the higher self.


When this point is reached,there ensues a download of forgotton realizations into the
conscious mind,the soul who had these realizations vouchsafed within itself,now is able
to share this bounty with its grosser other half?The imagination becomes fired-up and
access to the "seed thought" the "living flame" becomes within limited reach.


The very word be-ingness takes on an entirely different meaning,and concepts that were
unimaginal only the day before burst upon the newly awoken conscious mind.


tbc


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I think it may be called grace, michael.

Initially it was an allegory for the death and resurrection of the Godman throughout various cultures and in different times for different peoples.
The allegory of Dionysis and Osiris.
The allegory of Krishna and Arjuna.
The allegory of Moses and Jesus.
The allegory of Jesus and the Christ.
All example/extrapolations of Plato's "The Allegory of the Cave."
And it is by Grace that we awaken to the truth which the allegory gives us an insight into.
Literally it doesn't make much sense but allegorically/metaphorically it withstands the test of time.
Which is why Sages, Wisemen, Saints, Prophets and like spoke the way they did, so their teachings would stand the test of time. If this generation doesn't evolve or mature to the point of understanding, the same message is there and maybe the next generation will surpase the onlder one in comprehension and spritual evolution and will understand and help their fellow man comprehend them as well.
Therefore it is said, Where two or more of a like-mind are gathered together in brotherhood and comraderie and in my name, there am I.
I had this exact same experience during carotid surgery shortly after a stroke in May of 2000.
I know from first hand experience there is something beyond what everyone considers "normal reality".
It's somewhat extraordinary to see/witness what you formerly thought was "I" or "me", lifeless and on a table being attended to [under the knife] by the surgeon and nurses and being completely out-of-body and one with awareness.
No body to speak of, just a conscious re-connection with something that felt vaguely familiar and a somewhat foreign sense of presence awareness without a physical vehicle.
In fact, I don't believe it would have made any difference had the former vehicle that housed the present awareness that "I" now was, and no longer a part of, went to the crematory, grave, or arose and walked again. Death it seemed, had no power here.
I can tell you from first hand experience that, from that perspective, looking upon what you though was, and rightfully so at the time, "your Life", from that perspective it[this] appears as a dream, a dream called [here] the waking state. But from there you have awoken from this dream, no longer a dreamer. And something else that is quite profound, you see that what you thought you were, was really the Ego. Which pretty much controlled and ran the whole "waking state".
The mind/body organism subservient to its every beck and call.
I guess in psychology that is what is known as "instinctual drive" but it is a conditioned response and not a natural one. And it's based on our environmental and cultural conditioning. And it's also what most 'normal people' consider their "I" and their "me".
It is an Impostor personae, and our subservience to it is what creates our happiness or lack thereof. For the most part, a lack therefof.
In most cases it is a ruthless tyrant causing us such despair we turn to other solutions, when the real solution is our own Higher Power. It is not outside of us but inside of us. It is the Christ State spoken of in the Bible.
The original purpose and intention of the allegory of the death and resurrection of the Godman was to acquaint us with our own higher power, and for those who were successful in doing so, followers gathered about them to hear of the redeemer, the Godman.
For each must find him through their own searching, it is a person quest and others who are knowledgeable of it point the way.
This is what The Baptism of The Holy Spirit means.
Thoughts become words become deeds become habits condition behavior builds character influences destiny.
We might all ask ourselves; Where are you headed?

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Hundreds of thousands of beings around this planet at the present time are "hovering within the orbit of the ignition point"all it needs is one more little incident,one more little
sychronos event,that will act as a catalyst to bring about an awakening,a connection with
their soul,or as some would call the higher self.


When this point is reached,there ensues a download of forgotton realizations into the
conscious mind,the soul who had these realizations vouchsafed within itself,now is able
to share this bounty with its grosser other half?The imagination becomes fired-up and
access to the "seed thought" the "living flame" becomes within limited reach.


The very word be-ingness takes on an entirely different meaning,and concepts that were
unimaginal only the day before burst upon the newly awoken conscious mind.


tbc


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The word Being explains nothing, but nor does God. Being, however, has the advantage that it is an open concept. It does not reduce the infinite invisible to a finite entity. It is impossible to form a mental image of it. Nobody can claim exclussive possession of Being. It is your very essence, and it is immediately accessible to you as the feeling of your own presence, the realization I am that is prior to I am this or I am that. So it is only a small step from the word of Being to the experience of Being. ~Echart Tolle

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Hundreds of thousands of beings around this planet at the present time are "hovering within the orbit of the ignition point"all it needs is one more little incident,one more little
sychronos event,that will act as a catalyst to bring about an awakening,a connection with
their soul,or as some would call the higher self.


When this point is reached,there ensues a download of forgotton realizations into the
conscious mind,the soul who had these realizations vouchsafed within itself,now is able
to share this bounty with its grosser other half?The imagination becomes fired-up and
access to the "seed thought" the "living flame" becomes within limited reach.


The very word be-ingness takes on an entirely different meaning,and concepts that were
unimaginal only the day before burst upon the newly awoken conscious mind.


tbc


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Identification with your mind creates an opaque screen of concepts, labels, images, words, judgements, and definitions that block all true relationship. It comes between you and yourself, between you and your fellow man and woman, between you and nature, between you and God.
It is this screen of thought that creates the illusion of seperateness, the illusion that there is you anda totally seperate "other." You then forget the essential fact that, underneath the level of physical appearances and seperate forms, you are one with all that is. By "forget," I mean that you can no longer feel this oneness as self-evident reality. You may believe it to be true, but you no longer know it to be true. A belief may be comforting. Only through your experience, however, does it become liberating. ~E.Tolle

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Identification with your mind creates an opaque screen of concepts, labels, images, words, judgements, and definitions that block all true relationship. It comes between you and yourself, between you and your fellow man and woman, between you and nature, between you and God.
It is this screen of thought that creates the illusion of seperateness, the illusion that there is you anda totally seperate "other." You then forget the essential fact that, underneath the level of physical appearances and seperate forms, you are one with all that is. By "forget," I mean that you can no longer feel this oneness as self-evident reality. You may believe it to be true, but you no longer know it to be true. A belief may be comforting. Only through your experience, however, does it become liberating. ~E.Tolle

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Drifter,being also is a cypher for be-in-god,words are ideas encapsulated within a tonal
pitch,the WORD,is one of the most powerful forces this side of the noumena!This is why
silence is "golden" and the sound is "brass",all seekers of enlightenment are "toned" to
run on silent mode.

The walls of Jerico would still be standing if silence reigned supremo?


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I agree michael. "Things aren't always what they seem."

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