[Mohan.C]

Spirituality is a measure of everything. But it is nothing but the way of life.
Spirituality was not an invention, it was a realization.

To explain simply spirituality is the realization of himself.

Godliness is your own potential you're potential to ecxceed limits that is conciousness.

A man who has lost his leg if he climbs mount everest then that is is the godliness in him. That means that if you make the discovery the hapiness in you then that is the godliness in you.

Every man has god in him. You don't have to understand it your being alive is your being god. You don't express it always because you are limited by your thoughts. The thoughts of you.

Nobody can be an atheist, it is impossible. If you don't believe in god. You believe in god but you don't want to believe it.

God is not external. It is nothing super natural. But it is simply eternal.

The one who understands god is the only ateist because he quickly discovers it is himself.

If you understand reality then you should have been put somewhere in the remote jungles of Africa and forever deprived of human knowledge. Then you will build up a whole new array of thoughts. Not influenced by society, by the history of mankind. Because in the beginning you will not know what you are called. There will be no ego in you, no selfishness, no greed. But yourself.

You would have unknowingly sacrificed yourself for that greater cause.

But now there is only to sacrifice to sacrifice your thoughts is the only way reach that ...that ..that I am pointing my finger at it but you can't see it neither can I.

[harmonygirl]

Mohan, I'm not sure what you mean by spirituality being a measure of everything. I have found that it is impossible to explain the way I experience the Goddess. She has introduced such wonder and joy into my life, it is very difficult to put into words. I agree she is not external. I think that to understand reality, you have to know society and the history of womankind, but unlearn those processes that block your understanding of the infinite. You have to chose not to have ego, not just be raised without it. but of course, that is just my opinion...

[mkirkpatrick]

Mohan my young friend,excellent thread starter,where will it lead I wonder?
You say that spirituality is a realization,well I suppose it is!However I feel that is so much more than that,if we go deep enough into all manifestation,all
forms and shapes of livingness,we will always discover the same thing,"spirit"
that which is the animater of the ether,the prime "mover" the motioner of all
objectivity and subjectivity in existance.Spirit=the prime motioner,that which
makes all existance possible,it gives "life" to the ether?Spirit(you-ality!)the
youality(uality)is the personal self aware conscious mind of the individual who
re-cog-nises his or her connection and heritige to divinity!When this is understood by the individual,fully understood I mean,there occurs a profound
expansion in conscious awareness,an inner atomic and sub atomic change in
the individuals harmonic resonances,and an inflow of finer "material" to cloth
the vehicle of expression.


kind regards michael.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl Mohan, I'm not sure what you mean by spirituality being a measure of everything. I have found that it is impossible to explain the way I experience the Goddess. She has introduced such wonder and joy into my life, it is very difficult to put into words. I agree she is not external. I think that to understand reality, you have to know society and the history of womankind, but unlearn those processes that block your understanding of the infinite. You have to chose not to have ego, not just be raised without it. but of course, that is just my opinion...

Thank you HG,
I very much agree with you. I tried my best to put in words though I know it is not quite possible. But however I said that to realize reality we must sacrifice our thoughts which constitute our past, our past which is our ego, not exactly, but, it is to some extent. And spirituality is the measure of everything. That is why it is impossible to explain it if we were able to then we would be having eternity in our hands.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Mohan my young friend,excellent thread starter,where will it lead I wonder? You say that spirituality is a realization,well I suppose it is!However I feel that is so much more than that,if we go deep enough into all manifestation,all forms and shapes of livingness,we will always discover the same thing,"spirit" that which is the animater of the ether,the prime "mover" the motioner of all objectivity and subjectivity in existance.Spirit=the prime motioner,that which makes all existance possible,it gives "life" to the ether?Spirit(you-ality!)the youality(uality)is the personal self aware conscious mind of the individual who re-cog-nises his or her connection and heritige to divinity!When this is understood by the individual,fully understood I mean,there occurs a profound expansion in conscious awareness,an inner atomic and sub atomic change in the individuals harmonic resonances,and an inflow of finer "material" to cloth the vehicle of expression. kind regards michael.

Michael, thanks for the post.
When we have to go deep it must instinctious, you cannot try and go deep. You can try but anyway it will be realized in a moment. A moment of thought that is instinct. And I agree with you or rather I should thank you for the other things you have explained in your posts

And Michael it will lead to the realization of the soul.

[Mohan.C]

Math and science are the measure of man's need and greed. I am not trying to be negative in my approach nor is that statement true. But that is how I believe everything began. Math in its simplest way the simplest I have understood is about greater and lesser. what one has and what the other does'nt. Sciece is manipulation. Manipulation to produce more. Manipulation to have a better effect to attain our incresing needs of greed.
But this is not entirely tru now, we have grown past that. But I thought it is important to know this to know our choices. However I will not comment on philosophy because it is somewhere in the middle of everyting and I don't understand it much.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C Math and science are the measure of man's need and greed. I am not trying to be negative in my approach nor is that statement true. But that is how I believe everything began. Math in its simplest way the simplest I have understood is about greater and lesser. what one has and what the other does'nt. Sciece is manipulation. Manipulation to produce more. Manipulation to have a better effect to attain our incresing needs of greed. But this is not entirely tru now, we have grown past that. But I thought it is important to know this to know our choices. However I will not comment on philosophy because it is somewhere in the middle of everyting and I don't understand it much.

You have made some very interesting points there,Mohan,please keep on looking deeply into the affairs of mankind,you will reveal some of the drivers
of the species,which can be a revelation in itself???

kindest regards michael.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Mohan.C Math and science are the measure of man's need and greed. I am not trying to be negative in my approach nor is that statement true. But that is how I believe everything began. Math in its simplest way the simplest I have understood is about greater and lesser. what one has and what the other does'nt. Sciece is manipulation. Manipulation to produce more. Manipulation to have a better effect to attain our incresing needs of greed. But this is not entirely tru now, we have grown past that. But I thought it is important to know this to know our choices. However I will not comment on philosophy because it is somewhere in the middle of everyting and I don't understand it much.

Nietzsche said 'We know to devour'. He meant exactly what you say and what I agree with: science exists for knowledge and knowledge exists for prediction and prediction exists for control. Therefore, science exists for control. I want to read your philosophy about philosophy.

[WithoutMe]

No wonder all acts & attempts at knowing is all abt conquering what one wants to know.... we, the humans of this day & age, are very much the hunters & the humpers which have lived on this earth some millions of yrs ago!!!

Btw, Mohan am very eager to know how u see Spirituality as regards to Religion?
Plz comment.

Regards,
wM.

PS. Guille, you "want to read ...[abt his] philosophy about philosophy"... shades on Nietzsche on u???

[harmonygirl]

I am not sure I agree that all acts and attempts at knowing are about conquest. School was definitely about conquest, but knowing as it applies to life is less about conquest and more about understanding how things are.