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Does animals have free wills? - 06-02-2006, 08:42 AM

Does animals have free wills. Does they have spirits too? What if they are just completely matter and the passion and reactions we see from them are just not for real? Do they really have place for heaven? We know they can think but a computer can think too. Thinking is not an evidence of free will. Computers can think but they can't choose beyond what is programmed for them.


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Re: Does animals have free wills? - 06-02-2006, 10:41 AM

This is a good question Vabrugar. According to the theory of everything, i.e. 1/0, all life forms have what we would call free will, from the simplest protozoa to the smartest human. That is because all life forms are self-actuating by the same force and cosmic purpose of life. As lifeforms evolve, they become more conscious of their free will. An organism concscious of himself as well as his surroundings is ascended to the level of animal being. An organism who becomes conscious of 1/0 becomes a celestial animal being, which is akin to the "God" or "Gods" of legend. Hope this helps spread your awareness.
  
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Re: Does animals have free wills? - 06-02-2006, 01:00 PM

If that is the theory of 1/0, then do you think a pig can possibly reach and ascended to an animal being then to celestial being which is akin to God? What would you think will happen to a pig if it dies? Does it goes to hell or heaven? Free will is the spiritual power to choose between good and evil and between heaven and hell. It is not the power to choose between food and hunger as all animals does. The theory of everything cannot be found in the calculator nor in numbers. 1/0 equals indifinite number, indifinite answer means a not defined answer.


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Re: Does animals have free wills? - 06-02-2006, 10:26 PM

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If that is the theory of 1/0, then do you think a pig can possibly reach and ascended to an animal being then to celestial being which is akin to God? What would you think will happen to a pig if it dies? Does it goes to hell or heaven? Free will is the spiritual power to choose between good and evil and between heaven and hell. It is not the power to choose between food and hunger as all animals does. The theory of everything cannot be found in the calculator nor in numbers. 1/0 equals indifinite number, indifinite answer means a not defined answer.
Just because history has decided that 1/0 is undefined does not mean that they are right, in fact, it probably means that they are just afraid of something, everything. But we have nothing to be afraid of because 1/0 is the greatest thing of all time, literally and absolutely speaking, for there is no greater number, not even infinity itself. You are exactly right that the theory of everything cannot be found in a calculator, which proves that calculators are not self-actuating life forms that strive to understand 1/0, i.e. everything, like I just said. If you divide one by zero in a calculator, the calculator will tell you that the theory of everything is undefined, and some people will believe that is true. But that is not correct, for the calculator does not know, as you and me do. It is only the human and the celestial beings who have come before us that are able to know that only nothing is undefined, not everything, for everything is what is defined. I repeat, everything itself is the very essence of definition. Don't you believe it?

But to answer your question, yes it is possible that pigs could have evolved the way we did to eventually understand 1/0, but they didn't, we did, because it was our destiny, but sometimes destiny is a slow proccess, and so I am here to help catalyze our destiny of becoming like the exalted ones who are our ancestors and descendents. I am like an archetype, who understands how to become a race of celestial beings, by understanding, appreciating and utilizing 1/0. I have come to enlighten myself and those around me who aspire to understand everything, and I hope you want to see what I want to show you. Do you understand me? You will be absolutely amazed!
  
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Re: Does animals have free wills? - 06-03-2006, 05:00 AM

Actually I also came out about 5 years ago with that solution 1/0 to support the theory of everything. The answer would be between -1 and 1 which is zero or invisibility. The formula of 1/0 is somehow near to the solution but it lack some beyond numerical variables. But I leave that equation because I have found the simple solution. I will not be amazed if the theory of everything will be unlocked because the truth is ..it was already provided in the code of Bible thousands of years ago. Its just most people are ignorance of the Bible. And if the read it, they lacks spiritual understanding. Are you aware of the history of mankind on their ignorance of the Earth being round? They believe that the earth was flat until Magellan had travel around the world finding out eventually that earth is round. In the bible verses, it was written that the earth is round. If human had only read the bible thousands of years ago, then they wouldn't become ignorance of the earth as being round. My point is the bible are the words of God. And God knows the theory of everything. And that theory of everything is found in the bible the answers of God.

A pig cannot become humans, and absolutely cannot become a god. God is "a creator and He was never created". A creature or a creation like pig or even humans cannot become "a creator which was never created." Because at the first place animal and humans are created by God. Unlike God that was not created, the only creator that was not created.


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Re: Does animals have free wills? - 06-03-2006, 06:38 AM

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Actually I also came out about 5 years ago with that solution 1/0 to support the theory of everything. The answer would be between -1 and 1 which is zero or invisibility. The formula of 1/0 is somehow near to the solution but it lack some beyond numerical variables. But I leave that equation because I have found the simple solution. I will not be amazed if the theory of everything will be unlocked because the truth is ..it was already provided in the code of Bible thousands of years ago. Its just most people are ignorance of the Bible. And if the read it, they lacks spiritual understanding. Are you aware of the history of mankind on their ignorance of the Earth being round? They believe that the earth was flat until Magellan had travel around the world finding out eventually that earth is round. In the bible verses, it was written that the earth is round. If human had only read the bible thousands of years ago, then they wouldn't become ignorance of the earth as being round. My point is the bible are the words of God. And God knows the theory of everything. And that theory of everything is found in the bible the answers of God.

A pig cannot become humans, and absolutely cannot become a god. God is "a creator and He was never created". A creature or a creation like pig or even humans cannot become "a creator which was never created." Because at the first place animal and humans are created by God. Unlike God that was not created, the only creator that was not created.
My dear friend I have also come to the solution is between -1 and 1. Anyway it is beyond the rule of math. And if you do take a closer look at that solution, I tell you, you will also find that there is no difference between -1 and 1 but they are both the same. Anyway they can be kinda reflections. But reflections are different aren't they. But that really is beyond math.
A pig cannot be human that is true that is because it is less intelligent though it has the same conciousness. That is the differencew between the Animals and humans. Humans are mor intelligent. But the computers are only intelligent but they are not concious and can never be(except in hollywood, that is!)


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Smile Re: Does animals have free wills? - 06-03-2006, 09:22 AM

No amimals do not have "axis"!Yet to free will,our lesser bretheren,for that is what they are,lesser only in the fact that they are as "yet" un-self-aware,they are aware and conscious,but not as yet self conscious,they are
goverened purely by instinct,and cannot deviate from that program.That is why in many of the older teachings of theeast,and indeed in the modern bible
animals are referred to as "without spot"in other words incapable of sin,as they are unable to venture of the instinctual path set out for them.Man however is very much different,and can choose to go against all promptings
of instinct,and can dis-obey the natural law of inclusion,however this action
is as we know dearly to our cost,not without penalty?


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Re: Does animals have free wills? - 06-03-2006, 10:46 AM

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Actually I also came out about 5 years ago with that solution 1/0 to support the theory of everything. The answer would be between -1 and 1 which is zero or invisibility. The formula of 1/0 is somehow near to the solution but it lack some beyond numerical variables. But I leave that equation because I have found the simple solution.
Excellent my friend, so you are also like an archetype, but how much do you really understand oh humble one? When it was that I realized that 1/0 is the number everything was the year 2000. I can tell you that you are right when you say that 1/0 lies between 1 and -1, but is it greater than or less than the absolute value of 1? It is greater than, so you got it a little wrong when you said that 1/0 is 0. 1/0 is the everything, which is the opposite of zero. But if you look at the number circle you will see that you are right that it lies between 1 and -1, just on the outer side that's all (http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/...verything.jpg). This is because 1/0 makes the number line complete into a number circle. So always remember what I have just shown you, that 1/0 is equal to everything, not nothing as you accidently thought. If you have a simple solution to everything it must refer to 1/0 for that is the symbol for everything.

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I will not be amazed if the theory of everything will be unlocked because the truth is ..it was already provided in the code of Bible thousands of years ago. Its just most people are ignorance of the Bible. And if the read it, they lacks spiritual understanding. Are you aware of the history of mankind on their ignorance of the Earth being round? They believe that the earth was flat until Magellan had travel around the world finding out eventually that earth is round. In the bible verses, it was written that the earth is round. If human had only read the bible thousands of years ago, then they wouldn't become ignorance of the earth as being round. My point is the bible are the words of God. And God knows the theory of everything. And that theory of everything is found in the bible the answers of God.
You are right that there is truth to the Bible but much of it has been lost. More true is the book of Enoch in my opinion. Have you read it? In it Enoch is taken up with the celestial beings and thus he becomes one of the Gods, a person who understand 1/0. Also the book predicts the coming of the chosen one who will enlighten mankind as to the secrets of the universe. This is predicted in many other mythologies such as that of the Mayans, and it is an obvious reference to he who will be most well designed to understand the theory of 1/0 and show it to the people.

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A pig cannot become humans, and absolutely cannot become a god. God is "a creator and He was never created". A creature or a creation like pig or even humans cannot become "a creator which was never created." Because at the first place animal and humans are created by God. Unlike God that was not created, the only creator that was not created.
The correct statement would be that a pig DID not become human. Whether it can or cannot is another, irrelevant matter. Also, it is with great respect that I tell you you are wrong when you say that humans cannot become celestial beings who understand 1/0 just as the God/Gods of legend did. The view that we cannot be celestial beings is a pessimistic view and must be wrong, for we live in the positive side of reality, where time flows forward, and thus we have free will to bring about our destiny, and thus everything, 1/0, is what is possible. Do you understand? I am trying to show you the greatest thing, 1/0.
  
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Cool Re: Does animals have free wills? - 06-05-2006, 11:44 AM

do animals have free will? It depends on how you define free will. Animals are WAY more sensitive through their sense than we are. You say that computers can think but can't chose beyond what has been programmed for them. Can humans or animals? Aren't we all programmed to be who we are (some call this personality)? Does free will include the notion of programming? Is it freedom to break programming? (because I don't think this has been done). I don't know how you define spirits but I know that everything is part of the Goddess, animals included. We are expressions of Her, whether we realize it or not. Whether animals have a place in the afterlife is to ask whether they can rejoin the Goddess, to which I say, of couse! What makes you think that we have cornered the market on spirituality? From whence to thence.


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So always remember what I have just shown you, that 1/0 is equal to
everything, not nothing as you accidently thought. If you have a simple 
solution to everything it must refer to 1/0 for that is the symbol for 
everything.
Mr. archetype. I think you must be corrected. I never thought that 1/0 is zero. 1/0 is infinity and not evrything, because not evrything were infinite. Neither your physical body is infinite.

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More true is the book of Enoch in my opinion. Have you read it? In it Enoch is
 taken up with the celestial beings and thus he becomes one of the Gods, a
 person who understand 1/0. Also the book predicts the coming of the 
chosen one who will enlighten mankind as to the secrets of the universe. This
 is predicted in many other mythologies such as that of the Mayans, and it is
 an obvious reference to he who will be most well designed to understand the
 theory of 1/0 and show it to the people.
So your admiting that the book of enoch is more true than the bible. I hope you don't rely on mythologies as it name suggest it is a myth.

A man cannot become a God who is a creator that never created. And it is not a pessimistic concept. We cannot become god or goddes but it doesn't mean we cannot gain immortality. Of course we can have eternal life as God promised, but we can never become a God ( a creator who was never created)
Sometimes we need to accept our limitation, because Limitation keeps us in the right position.


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