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06-06-2006, 01:22 PM
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06-06-2006, 06:14 PM
As to the origin of God, it is easy to imagine that the one or ones who are the most imagined as Godless are down on their knees, 24/7 hoping that there really is one. Please don't ask me to debate this. | |
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06-07-2006, 03:55 AM
God exists as our mind exist. We cannot see God through our eyes, but He indeed exist. We cannot see our minds through our eyes but we completely admit it exists, as God exists. Only a mindless person will say that mind don't exist and God don't exist. | |
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06-07-2006, 09:02 AM
As far as I understand, things that do not have any requirement do not exist. We do not require 'God' for any reason whatsoever. Hence it is very safe to concur that 'He' does not exist. | |
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06-07-2006, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by michellemfry As to the origin of God, it is easy to imagine that the one or ones who are the most imagined as Godless are down on their knees, 24/7 hoping that there really is one. Please don't ask me to debate this. | Not me, Michell...
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06-07-2006, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Vabrugar God exists as our mind exist. We cannot see God through our eyes, but He indeed exist. We cannot see our minds through our eyes but we completely admit it exists, as God exists. Only a mindless person will say that mind don't exist and God don't exist. | Vabrugar, science ain't science with god in it, sorry. And, mind can exist with no god belief, IMO. Your analogy is incomplete...
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06-07-2006, 06:31 PM
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Does it really matter? | Guille, it matters more than any other question on earth___the vast differences between Muslems and Christians[others, etc.] is here for a long time to come___Nukes?___the only solution is to understand these fundamentals to the deepest ontic level possible. It may even be the theory of everything, hiding in our stupid prejudices and hatreds... I think such questions much more important than the physics solution, to its unifying principles... I further think both solutions are philosophical, as all people can speak the language of a simple philosophy... At least everyone could understand any philosophical TOE, if it were written at the 5th grade level...
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06-07-2006, 11:14 PM
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Vabrugar, science ain't science with god in it, sorry. And, mind can exist with no god belief, IMO. Your analogy is incomplete...
My dear friend, how do your mind exist? Is it far away of the existence of God as far as the whole world is concern? What is the big difference between the existence of mind and God? The great similarity is that you don't see and you can't hold both of them. What science are you trying to point out? There is a deeper science that the human have ever known. And that is God's science. Human science as we know are just more on theories. i.e., thoery of evolution, theory of big bang, etc.. These are the science of man, more theories rather than evidences. Perhaps this analogy is incomplete, but that doesn't justify that this is wrong. There is no man who knows everthing. | |
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06-08-2006, 11:14 AM
Vabrugar, I didn't say anyone was wrong___I am simply trying to point out it is all theory___it's all intellectual constructivism, since the dawn of knowledge___whether the theory of god or science... No one___and I mean no one___has proved any of it___yet...! This is what we are all hunting for...
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Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie
Vabrugar, science ain't science with god in it, sorry. And, mind can exist with no god belief, IMO. Your analogy is incomplete...
My dear friend, how do your mind exist? Is it far away of the existence of God as far as the whole world is concern? What is the big difference between the existence of mind and God? The great similarity is that you don't see and you can't hold both of them. What science are you trying to point out? There is a deeper science that the human have ever known. And that is God's science. Human science as we know are just more on theories. i.e., thoery of evolution, theory of big bang, etc.. These are the science of man, more theories rather than evidences. Perhaps this analogy is incomplete, but that doesn't justify that this is wrong. There is no man who knows everthing. |
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06-09-2006, 05:59 AM
Yes I agree. We are all here for the quest of the truth.
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