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    God has no begining and no end

    I dont know how correct this is or if it has flaws or what not but I thought it was kind of interesting.

    Without Wonder there is no amazement and without amazement there is no longing for excitement or thrill, so you one could say Wonder is equal too amazement and excitement and thrill. Also if those things are equal and the emotion that excitement and thrill bring on is happiness, happiness is equal to love, and love is equal to god because God is all love then one could say:

    Wonder=amazement=excitement and thrill=happiness=love=God=one*

    *becouse God is the one and only he is The One God.

    The Wonder of One=God-----but The Wonder of One is because of God therefore God is of himself, thus having no beginning and no end.
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    Isn't God just an outdated form from pre-history that is actually just nature the universe and everything? Isn't God just the chemical reaction of what started everything off as IS a part of everything? (This is very broad and does not underline my belief and I am not putting into doubt anyone elses!)

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    Think Of God As A Simple Geometric Circle, Where Does The Circle Start, Were Does It End?

    God Never Starts, And Never Ends.

    Alex
    impossible... no... no my friend, it just hasnt been discovered!

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    Question Beyond our ability to percieve

    Recently I have been having some interesting conversation with my dad about the infinite and finite. Personally I believe God cannot be defined although I do have a few words to describe what he/she/it is. God is in infinite. He is not bound by time or space. He has no beggining or end. If he has no boudaries and is not confined to any certain space or time than it would be insufficient to give him names or words as we do the things here in our finite world.
    Another thing that comes to mind is if he is infinite how can he interact with the finite. The best answer I can give is that he doesn't. In biblical text when someone says they have seen or spoken to God it is actually the angel of the Lord they are referring to.

    Just a thought.

    Nichole
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    Although God has no beginning nor an end, He is our beginning and our end as recorded in the Bible [math]\alpha[/math] and [math]\omega[/math].

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROFET
    Think Of God As A Simple Geometric Circle, Where Does The Circle Start, Were Does It End?

    God Never Starts, And Never Ends.

    Alex
    I like this comment about the circle. I think that God, as taken to be the ultimate absolute and all-encompassing god, is just a concept. Since it overrides everything you can never actually grasp it. It's like trying to determine the distance around the circle without a standard unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROFET
    Think Of God As A Simple Geometric Circle, Where Does The Circle Start, Were Does It End?

    God Never Starts, And Never Ends.

    Alex
    The circle starts where you decide to start looking at it and finishes where you finishes just before that, after you have gone looking all around.

    Anyway, although it has no begining and no end, the circle is clearly, and this is a mathematical, not phoilosophical statement, is finite: you just multiply the radius by two and by pi, and then you have the FINITE number of the circle's circumference. I have just invalidated the circle argument, and what surprises me, is that I have improvised this answer, I thought while I wrote; this means that I'm getting better.
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    Infinity can exist in the finite
    Fractals are infinite, yet enclosed by finite space.
    Our universe appears to us to be infinite, we cannot know how much light hasn't reached us yet, so the observable universe and the universe are different sizes.
    In Ed Witten's M Theory our universe appears to be infinite. If you were an immortal, travelling at the speed of light around the universe for ever and a day, you could never leave the universe, never get outside of it, just as a character on a computer screen cannot leap out of it......therefore the universe seems to you to be infinite.
    But if you could step up a dimension, you could step out of the universe into the 11th dimension. The 11th dimension according to Witten contains all possible universes, every single possible event........any fraction of infinity is infinitity..........
    The 11th dimension itself seems in theory at least to be infinitem however there is no reason why it cannot be an atom in an even higher dimension or even in the mind of God.... everything is relative to your point of view....
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    Question

    Although I would certanly agree,that God,has no begining and no ending.

    there is a beginning to manifestation,when,matter becomes manifest,
    and a universe is born,as the ancient wisdom calls the day,and the night
    of the absolute,when the absolute,breathes in all manifestation is withdrawn
    from existance,and remains unknown,and undetectable,for millions of years

    Then there is a outbreathing,and,matter once,again,becomes manifest.
    there seems to be a outward compactness of principles within principles,
    wrapped within one another,involution,so to speak,then,there,seems to
    be a moments pause,then the unwrapping begins,evolution,so to speak.

    would be interested in any comments,positive,or otherwise.
    regards,michael.
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    I think we are both saying the same thing, in different language. Ancient Hindu Mantras speak of vibration as being the secret of the cosmos, all forms of meditation are about tuning the mind into the universe, focusing the mind.
    Enlightenment could be an increase in ones vibration, allowing access to the universe. Sometimes religious people make the best scientists, Einstein and that dude who invented the Maser & Laser, his personal quest for the last few decades has been to try and unite science and religion. He sees no conflict between the two.
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