Science 'versus' God?

[dipayankar]

I agree with you. Magic makes us happy...

Hi Prof,

diatribe

Nope, wrong again, not a tirade, harangue, onslaught, attack, polemic, denunciation, broadside, fulmination, or a condemnation, but a regular normal scientific analysis of the hypothesis of God.


as a result of blind chance or necessity.

We may visit the ID God as a sideline to clear up this misconception of the Creationist’s shady approaches like this.


you have Dumbkins.

Who’s that dumb guy?


attack a person's faith

I only search for truth.


So go ahead prove to me that God isn't good or loving

OK, if you wish, I’ll do a short sideline on that aspect.


knows you CAN"T disprove God,

Yes, it was thought that until recently.


only you and Hoyle believe in an eternal universe.

Not me, for indeed the universe was created when you say. Only the potential whence it came was eternal.


Though something or someone must be eternal to create our awesome universe.

True, a something.


Hi Mel,

Which alternative best fits the evidence?

I can do a sideline on the probability analysis to evaluate if God and not God is on an even footing. Note: it is far from 50-50.


people, animals, plants, trees, in every aspect of nature.

Yes, nature is nature.


I agree Austin. The ''Religions God'' is a pseudo God made up by the mind of imagination.

Yes, and that is another kind of great proof that we have also much examined and concluded, but mine will be the scientific evidence of no God.


Hi Dip,

Hi Austin, somehow you do not come across as the atheist type.

I like to write of magical happenings, but I know that they are made up and just stories. Also I enjoy life a lot.


Hello Caramel horse,

“Hey, lately I am talking to horses! Anyway, Caramel, the only mammals that have religion are the humans.”

[austintorn@aol.com]

Of course there is no evidence that this is how creation occurred. A true scientist wouldn't touch that question with a 10 foot pole.

And, yet, Prof, we will be touching it. I may expose a small part of the scientific proof of no Theity a bit sooner, as it also relates to Graybeard's 'Something from Nothing' post. It's not that's there's a total nothing, but that Nothing is still very key, since it is totally unstable. Also, we will see that there is no imprint of a Theity on the actual initial state of stuff of the universe at time 0.

In other areas, too, by and large, the supernatural, although invisible, would affect and interface with the material realm, causing effects to be noted there in some magical, unexplainable way. We shall investigate this and be seeing if all is just how it would be if there were no Theity… or what…

(How was that video?)

[Profpat]

Well, I guess I presented my case, for the most part taken on faith. I do have to admit there always is that slightest doubt, which if I were completely honest would classify me as an agnostic, I really don't have faith the size of a mustard seed, in that I cannot walk on water, I lack the faith to do that. I believe if One had that type of faith He would be able to walk on water in that truly He and God would be One.

Best to you Austin,

Pat

[AntonioLao]

to walk on water

To walk on water, all it takes is the force of antigravity to move at different equipotential surfaces.

[austintorn@aol.com]

I walked on water when it was ice.

That was when Hell froze over and I escaped.

[AntonioLao]

Just be sure to wear non-slip shoes or better yet tied two tennis rackets to the soles of your feet.

[Profpat]

Just be sure to wear non-slip shoes or better yet tied two tennis rackets to the soles of your feet.

Where is your faith Antonio?

[michael turner]

Of course there is no evidence that this is how creation occurred. A true scientist wouldn't touch that question with a 10 foot pole.

And, yet, Prof, we will be touching it. I may expose a small part of the scientific proof of no Theity a bit sooner, as it also relates to Graybeard's 'Something from Nothing' post. It's not that's there's a total nothing, but that Nothing is still very key, since it is totally unstable. Also, we will see that there is no imprint of a Theity on the actual initial state of stuff of the universe at time 0.

In other areas, too, by and large, the supernatural, although invisible, would affect and interface with the material realm, causing effects to be noted there in some magical, unexplainable way. We shall investigate this and be seeing if all is just how it would be if there were no Theity… or what…

(How was that video?)

In fourth Grade math, the concept of nothing is explained as the addition or multiplication property of Zero. Zero, nothing does not exist, if it exists , by simple defination , it cannot be nothing or you could divide it by itself and get one, which is something. So if nothing is the key, you got nothing. Try again.

If you can't use math, then how scientific can your theory be? Unless you would like me/us to take it on faith????

[austintorn@aol.com]

nothing does not exist, if it exists , by simple defination , it cannot be nothing

This is true, for 'nothing' means not to be. If it had properties, then, it would not be 'nothing'. Some loosely refer to a near 'nothing' as a 'nothing', there being some energy to it or some inherent capability to differentiate itself, but, again, as you and I say and prove, this would be far from 'nothing', for it has a potential within it.

Others speak of taking a patch of nothing, but, again, it just ain't there to do anything. Since 'nothing' can't be 'there', there must then be something. No choice. The total lack of a something would be an unstable state.

Some say that math underlies the universe. Maybe, who knows, but it is also that events have regularities that are very amenable to description to math. So, I'm not sure which came first.

At any rate, I won't be needing math for the proof.

[Profpat]

It seems like you're facing difficulties with the old something from nothing paradox, Austin. How again did you get that something from nothing? With God as Creator you get something from something. That First Something, the Eternal Something, the Creator Something......

And I can't go farther because I can't speak for God.