Science 'versus' God?

[Mikal]

Principles of the Soul
The soul generates out of itself five dual states of being and consciousness and functions as the driving influences which act through centrifugally outgoing processes and centripetally inward drawing aspects of the elements sentience (ether), subjectivity (an inner life) (fire), a mental, thinking life or objective consciousness (air), an emotional life (water) and a sense of physical form (earth). All of these elements are sub-parts to the soul’s state which is a coherently unified consciousness plus a common sense of identity and purpose.

The sub-parts have characteristically different functional instincts and capacities. Every individual is part and parcel of this inner sub-group consciousness.
The soul-being possesses a consciousness and a sense of function both instinctively and telepathically connected to the sub-parts of which it forms a part and hence the parts plus the coherently unified consciousness forms a part of a larger Universal Consciousness and One Universal Soul. Hence, the soul being is a functional microcosm of the larger macrocosmic Universal Soul.

The Nature and Form of the Soul
The Soul-Body=spheroidal or ovoid shaped aura or field of light>its microcosmic counterpart, the cell in an organic body>a field of light reflecting physical form, an enfolding sphere of mind<an evolving consciousness which is a sequential unfolding of an increasing intelligence in humankind which has led to the following progressive development in humanities’ objective consciousness, comprised of self-consciousness, family consciousness, tribal consciousness, cultural consciousness, nationalistic consciousness, internationalistic consciousness and one-humanity consciousness. The essence of this progression is that of an inclusive expansion within the framework of a triple soul consciousness (development of natural intelligence which is a progressive spiritual faculty comprising the principles of Intelligence, Mind and Consciousness) an inclusive expansion that parallels humankind’s objective behavior from an actively progressive foundation of functional awareness, namely:
1) Intuitive consciousness.
2) Sense of self-consciousness.
3) Instinctive consciousness.

The soul in nature can only be understood esoterically as the soul is immortal and maintains a faculty of consciousness throughout eternity. The soul is the conglomerate vehicle of the spirit of man or enfolding sphere of Mind and the soul has only partial emanation into the physical body which is its mortal aggregate and the temporary vehicle of the soul’s partial emanation.

The Soul as a Universal Principle
The soul principle or sphere of consciousness is represented by the Ogdoad, or equal eight-sided geometrical figure. The soul is no abstraction, it manifests itself as a sphere of light, it guides and guards each individual human being and it provides the source of the very life, consciousness and function of each individual human being. The soul gives of its nature throughout a person’s life to ensure its continuity of existence and its faculty of consciousness.
The sense of consciousness is the synthesized or unitary sense of the soul. A soul can be young or old and we can see through individual behavior patterns whether a soul is grounded in tribal consciousness, geared towards attaining and evolving to cultural consciousness which would be a young soul or a soul grounded in internationalistic consciousness, geared towards attaining and evolving a one-humanity consciousness which would be an old soul. In the present incarnation of souls, western society is a colorful mixture of tribal, cultural and national consciousness reflecting a society highly competitive and urged to belong to particular social or political grouping. Whereas in the Middle East and Africa, the evolutionary issue involves an extended family consciousness, essentially tribal in nature yet urged to attain cultural identity and a developing intuitive sense of national identity.

I have been studying the work of ancient philosophers, of author J.S. Gordon, the work of Ernest Holmes, the work of author P. Gardner, author R. Tarnas, author and modern philosopher David Chalmers…etc, connecting and integrating all thoughts and concepts, combined with a study of my own experiential experience with my own states of consciousness. An understanding of the soul cannot be separated from the aspects of consciousness nor can consciousness be completely understood without grasping the nature of the soul.

Regards Mikal

[everymansmedium]

Hello friends:
I did not quote a specific post here because when I read the post I was going to put here I discovered that it was not just for this place. It turned out to be universal thought that is needed throughout this site. I will post it here as this is where I first intended to post. But I also installed it permanently as a comment to my blog. I also plan to post this in a number of places on my various websites.
The post:
We need a leader.

All of the people that we learn from that did great works all through the past history of mankind, no matter how brilliant they were, no matter the level of effort and desire, They had exactly the same problem then that we do now. They didn’t know either. This is why it is very important to strike out on new avenues of understanding less we remain forever in the same dilemma.

This is not meant to belittle all the past work of mankind, but to encourage the best kind of actions that may in time also be seen as the best works of mankind. Know when you are following, and who it is that you are following, so that you may determine where it is that you are going. If you have in your heart the drive to lead then say a prayer that you bring your people to a place of comfort and peace. But know that in this time that we all suffer, it is the instinctive leader that we need that will show to the people the road that has not been seen in the past that will lead us to the understanding that has yet to come. The key phrase is that it has yet to come. It will not be found by studying past writings, for it is a road that has yet to be found.

John EMM

[jag]

But know that in this time that we all suffer, it is the instinctive leader that we need that will show to the people the road that has not been seen in the past that will lead us to the understanding that has yet to come. The key phrase is that it has yet to come. It will not be found by studying past writings, for it is a road that has yet to be found.

John EMM

Hi John,

Leading and Following are only two dimensional.
We exist in at least four dimensions.

We are each on our own path trying to find a
way out of this suffering and loneliness. If there
is a Timeless Truth that can bring us all together
in Peace, Love and Bliss, nobody can show it to you
they can only shed some small amount of light on it.
You have to find it for yourself.

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make
him drink"

jag

[everymansmedium]

Hi John,

Leading and Following are only two dimensional.
We exist in at least four dimensions.

jag

That is debatable. I do not see anything that forces me to believe that we exist in space as opposed to being interfaced to space by way of a material body.

I am only sure of a single dimensional existence.
That is with freedom of movement only forward and forward again. as the dynamic time that we exist within is always only in one direction but there is always another forward movement possible as the dimension is dynamic. We exist at the forever NOW. Every single person exists within their own single strand of time and the relativity that exists as AE indicated is simply between the individual single strands of time. a being does not require space except for memory. The memory is the recognition of existence. For when you recognize, you must do so from a memory. It is a comparison from NOW to a past NOW. Then by comparison you find that what you look at NOW is the same as what you looked at, during a past NOW.

We are only interfaced to this 3 dimensional space. We exist only at NOW. We can compare the evidence of a past NOW to what we experience NOW, in so doing we verify that we WERE at that NOW. This is the only verification of our existence at all. It all takes place in a single strand of time.

Consciousness requires time.
If you hang on to the idea of a 3 or 4 dimensional existence you will need to find the same thing that AE needed to find to verify all that he did. That is the CONTINUUM.
It does not exist. Movement does not exist. The 3 dimensions of space are solid and unmoving. The continuous dynamic creation happens at every Planck instance at every Planck length. This coming into existence takes into consideration all things observed and considered in QP and QM. All movement is the result of recreation if there is no continuum.

To debate this is to compare beliefs. For their are no facts to move us toward one or the other. That is why we are here to find the TOE. These thoughts that I give you are coherent and they do not depend on any concept that can not be verified.

All of our sciences of the macro universe depend on a continuum. This concept of a continuum is not verified and it is not likely to be verified. We keep it only as a convenience to allow the existing systems of science to continue until we have a reasonable replacement for them.

It is time to rethink all of what we think to be solid and real.
John EMM

[jag]

It is time to rethink all of what we think to be solid and real.
John EMM

Hey John,

I agree. All we have to do is Rotate and Translate.
It won't be that had.

jag

[melanie]

Religion and science are opposed
but only in the same sense as that in which my thumb and forefinger are opposed
and between the two,
one can grasp everything.
~ ~ ~
Sir William Bragg

[chazzysaw]

Is it Science versus God or Science versus Religion? If it's science vs religion then science got religion beat by many centuries. Religion has a long way to catch up. If it's science vs God there is no competition because God is science.

[MJA]

For the theoretical faithful, be it science or scientist, religion, rabis, mullas or priests, those that say they believe in God, do not really know God, for God is simply One. For most, the idea of God is affirmed, and at the same time disfigured and perverted at best.

Jacques Maritain and,

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MJA

[melanie]

Is it Science versus God or Science versus Religion?
If it's science vs religion then science got religion beat by many centuries.
Religion has a long way to catch up.
If it's science vs God there is no competition because God is science.

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[dipayankar]

How do we define God anyway? By vague statements like ' God is not definable', which in itself means God is a vague concept.