Science 'versus' God?

[dipayankar]

That's right. How can I blame something that does not exist??

Well how are you able to blame Him. Not to logical Dipayankar.

Best,

Pat

[PoPpAScience]

In my mind there is no Science 'verses' God, only the Science of "Aware/Universe/God against Atheism. It is only that very, very, very, very small amount of People, that are against the potentiality, of an "Aware" "Universe" called "God".

Those that believe in the spirituality of the Universe should hold Science dear to their heart's. Because, it is the study of the essence of the Living "Aware/Universe/God". Evolution should not be denied just because Darwin is to have said we came from an Ape. Just as Genesis should not be denied because those that say the Earth was created 6,000 years ago. If the "Aware/Universe/God" is changing everyday before our very eyes, how can we say that that is not the way "Aware/Universe/God creates. To me, the "Art of Evolution" is the way of a "Aware" "Universe" being "God".

We should not be arguing with Atheists about the nature of the Universe. We should be arguing that Science is the Nature of the Universe. I see Genesis describing the 6 transitions of creation (Evolution),and a day of rest, in a parable fashion to adhere to the basic minds of Ancient times. If this is true, then Evolution should be accepted by all Spiritualists as the creative Nature of God.

For the Atheist, well they have the right to believe what ever they want, as long as it does not hurt others. ie.. like Communists do.

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Figmentations
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(to be continued)

[Lloyd Gillespie]

In my mind there is no Science 'verses' God, only the Science of "Aware/Universe/God against Atheism. It is only that very, very, very, very small amount of People, that are against the potentiality, of an "Aware" "Universe" called "God".

PoP, show us your "god", in a test-tube___otherwise___it's pure dillusion...

Lloyd

[PoPpAScience]

PoP, show us your "god", in a test-tube___otherwise___it's pure dillusion...

Lloyd

Lloyd, the 'delusion' is with the one who with Awareness and thought, does not see "Aware/Universe/God" in the test tube.

[dipayankar]

Wow God in a test tube... that will make a good title for a Hollywood flick. But that does not break much ice in reality

Lloyd, the 'delusion' is with the one who with Awareness and thought, does not see "Aware/Universe/God" in the test tube.

[PoPpAScience]

Wow God in a test tube... that will make a good title for a Hollywood flick. But that does not break much ice in reality

That depends on who's reality we are talking about. The reality of a very, very, very, very small group of people who see the Universe as dead and Evolving Endlessly. Or, the reality of others who see the"Aware/Universe/God" as a living, ever manifesting "Being". Just because the very, very, very, very small few people say there is no life to the Universe, does not make it so. Nor does the words of those who say, the "Aware/Universe/God" is a Living Being, 'Absolutely' provable. The difference is, that the majority of people are "Aware" of the fact that they are 'alive', and consider this as very important in their contemplation on how Reality works. While the very few say Reality is 'dead' and 'fluky' , and with out meaning. The majority say we are part of a 'living' meaningful Reality.

Being part of the very few for much of my life, I realize how easy it is to deny the 'feelings' of an inner presence. I guess that is why I also fought feverishly in those days to express the 'deadness' of reality. I guess because then I would no longer be the centre of the Universe and almighty. I would have to give way to the possibility that I am just an 'Expression of a Greater Reality'. Thank God, I did not continue to deny my feelings, and opened my mind to the possibility of there 'Being' more.

[Profpat]

PoP, show us your "god", in a test-tube___otherwise___it's pure dillusion...

Lloyd

Lloyd show me your fundamental subtance in a test tube otherwise it's purely dillusional.

My God would be the universe,the test tube, you and I, and any FS you can find.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Lloyd show me your fundamental subtance in a test tube otherwise it's purely dillusional.

My God would be the universe,the test tube, you and I, and any FS you can find.

Try photons, Profpat, since they're the smallest reality we know of. Then try the fundamental theory of universal geometry, where the inverse laws of physics operate, first, as has been shown by all micro-black-hole geometries, which in turn produce the finite matter black-holes of galaxy evolutions. It's most likely a cyclic universe, but not the one of legend, but possibly one, of the inverse laws of physics preceeding, the exverse laws(standard laws of physics) of our real universe. Remember, protons have not yet been found to decay, so the universe is of real substance. If you expand your mind to see the fundamental dark photonic substance, operating first through the inverse laws of physics, which science is already in agreement with, and the cosmological facts and observations bear out, then you just may see it's a simpler process of universal evolution, than has thus far been imagined. This model plays out in two geometric evolutions, 1.A single massive black-hole evolution, from trillions, to the trillions, of infintesimal black-holes, or 2.A many lesser sized, yet quite large, centers of all galaxy black-holes, many small-bangs black-hole model, forming from the same process as number 1., from trillions, to the trillions, of infintesimal black-holes, of the FPS.(Fundamental photonic substance), cold, dark photons___The inverse to exverse mechanics of its total geometry. Funny thing, there's nothing missing, not even gravity's explanations. The physicists are, at present, working out the quantum-gravity maths and geometries.

Your "god" is outside of everything, except self-dellusions, of weak and lazy spirit-egos...

They're visible to all of us, pat___photons___are they not...? Science proposes nothing but what does, already exist, eternally... If it ain't in the test-tube___It's dillusion...

Micro and macro black-holes, and photons, are in the micro and macro test-tubes, and likely at the center of all particle structures, as Higgs-Bosons... We'll have to wait for the Hadron's proof, next year...

We exist as spirit, imagination and intuitional logic, only in the bio-era... The geo-chemical-gas era only operates on the pure logical motions of the laws of physics, of matter motions, recently discovered by man, in the bio-era... You ontologists get your ontology, in the proper era, and you'd understand the universe, and man, much better... The fundamental gas-chemical-geo-teleologies, produced all the spirit's ontologies, in the bio-eras... They are bio-era bound, by c... The spirit-ego only belongs, in the bio-era... The universe, pre-bio-era, just is logical motion of FPS...

Lloyd

[PoPpAScience]

Lloyd, you use the expression 'outside of everything', but people like I, are talking about a God that is the wavelength that makes up the stuff, that makes up 'Quarks'. So, actually we are talking about a science that goes far deeper, then the level of thought, that you adhere to. Now I do understand where you are coming from. I once was a part of your Ideology, but found the more I used logic, the more I had to take into consideration the fact that I am "Aware".

I'm not trying to change your mind, because I know that is impossible. I am just trying to make you and others understand that there are those of us who look deeper into the makeup of reality. We are not believers in a God sitting on a cloud passing judgement. We are believers that the fundamental substance of the Universe is a God wavelength. This God is not thinking laudy-da thoughts, but is expressing itself through 'Creation'. "God/Universe", is "Aware".