Science 'versus' God?

[leskey]

Pigs and Hyenas are mammals
When you say 'gargantuan carnivores', are you referring to dinosaurs or mammals ???

Yes, the fossil record supports cynodonts (early mammals) living concurrently with dinosaurs. but they were not overly prolific. As the daylight hours and the food resources were controlled by the dinosaurs. When you have to steal Tyrannosaurus Rex eggs from a loving mothers nest you live a life of grave risk ... and therefore you are not prolific. But you survive in some number.

Yes small cute mammals lived alongside the giant Pigs and Hyenas, also lots of other horrific and not so cute mammals. Pigs and Hyenas have to eat. The fossil record supports all these types living concurrently. The big cats in their basic forms also lived with the 'pigs' but they were not the top predators.

Do you know the story of new Zealand, which was isolated genetically (which proabably explains A LOT!), until around 1200 years ago when the first Maoris arrived. There was an eagle there that could pick a maori up in one claw and fly back to its nest, strip the maori and feed these strips to its young. It was the natural predator of the Giant Moa. The Maoris were terrified of it and never developed a defence against it ... it played a big part in their spiritual rituals.

They only became free from its terror when they ate the Moa to extinction. The Moas defence against the eagle was to hide amongst trees which the eagle's huge wing span prevented it from entering, but it was defenceless against humans ... and so the eagle went extinct as well.

hope I'm reading you right

Probably too right! LOL!

And, "No, I didn't know about the giant eagle." I'm currently living in Auckland and have only been to the Museum here, but will make sure I visit Te Papa next time I'm in Wellington.

[racecar]

OOh, something I'm familiar with. I've been on a 20 year dinosaur kick. It started with my twin brothers (16 years younger) and then my boys fell in love with dinosaurs and evolution... love all the dvds mentioned by Graybeard.
Lately we've been watching a lot of Neandrathal stuff...Really interesting.

I liked the Sundance film, Genesis.

[austintorn@aol.com]

The 'Kings' of Eternity

[racecar]

Nice pic, Austin.

oh yeah, my son got a new game for the pc ~ spore creature creator. A new one came out last week called spore. It's an interactive evolutionary game. They haven't played it yet, but heard great things about it and not supposed to be completely juvenile.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Yes, Spore was in the newspaper today. Maybe we can create some intelligent life on Earth.

[racecar]

I guess that depends on your theory of intelligence, Austin. I have looked at multiple intelligence and let my study of intelligence unfold (somewhat slowly, I guess). As we all recycle and evolve (dust to dust)...I'm guessing we could create intelligent life.

The kids have been enjoying Spore and using a lot of my computer time. Matt got to the space stage...he found an empty star system where planets orbit and is creating life out there.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Many think that by using imagination alone makes one capabable of discovering truths about the ultimate reality, in this case, the Supernatural, even though our imaginations are the last link in reality’s chain of events.

The mind has a tendency to listen to itself’s wanderings, just as there is a tendency for us to fall for our very own thoughts hook, line, and thinker—straight from their subconscious formation obtained from the nature of our own inclinations.

Long after the first conjecture has passed for truth we then weave many more layers of imagination about it, upon it, and around it until it takes root and grows a realistic looking form and structure that eventually permeates many or our thoughts and actions, bolstered thereby all the more when gone forward further to belief to practice to even more extensions to preaching and telling as a proof of an ultimate truth that all should grasp.

Yet, it was only imagined,
and totally lacking in support from the direct experience of the world.

The suppositions of the Supernatural creating the universe are often quite extravagant, totally inelagant, and more than superfluous.

Next time: Some of the mind’s ‘Supernatural’ pronouncements, some even from the spititual at ToeQuest that are inconsistent with each other, demonstrating the variation of divergence of free imagination—thus indicating its unreliability as a source of the truth of the ultimate.

[dipayankar]

Isn't God a creation of the Human Mind?

Many think that by using imagination alone makes one capabable of discovering truths about the ultimate reality, in this case, the Supernatural, even though our imaginations are the last link in reality’s chain of events.

The mind has a tendency to listen to itself’s wanderings, just as there is a tendency for us to fall for our very own thoughts hook, line, and thinker—straight from their subconscious formation obtained from the nature of our own inclinations.

Long after the first conjecture has passed for truth we then weave many more layers of imagination about it, upon it, and around it until it takes root and grows a realistic looking form and structure that eventually permeates many or our thoughts and actions, bolstered thereby all the more when gone forward further to belief to practice to even more extensions to preaching and telling as a proof of an ultimate truth that all should grasp.

Yet, it was only imagined,
and totally lacking in support from the direct experience of the world.

The suppositions of the Supernatural creating the universe are often quite extravagant, totally inelagant, and more than superfluous.

Next time: Some of the mind’s ‘Supernatural’ pronouncements, some even from the spititual at ToeQuest that are inconsistent with each other, demonstrating the variation of divergence of free imagination—thus indicating its unreliability as a source of the truth of the ultimate.

[Drifter]

Isn't God a creation of the Human Mind?

God created man so he might have someone to talk too, "I Loved Thee, Therfore I created thee", then,man went astray, I guess God goofed, with some of them at least, they got no ears to hear? Oh I almost forgot,He did give us a choice, or so it's said, how is it some hear and some don't? Maybe the ones who don't listen, or hear, aren't the 'chosen ones' . . . Naw...couldn't be that simple..., could it?

The mind of man manifesting anything other than beastiality, animalism, fat chance eh?, heaven forbid, so, looks like we're all S.O.L.

Namaste`
D.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Goofin' God was lonely, but, unfortunately now most people are busy talking on cell phones.

Luckily, though, since God loves us, there is no penalty for us goofs of the Great Goofer. Why is this true? Because I came up with it and think so.