Science 'versus' God?

[melanie]

LOL, Austin!

Keep on firing..."I'm always touched by your presence, dear..."

Speech is priceless if you speak with knowledge.

Weigh it in the scales of the heart before it comes from the mouth.

~ Kabir

[melanie]

Hi, Mel.

To be the least.

Not always by choice...but then to realise the freedom it confers... and NOT be afraid - very powerful indeed.

No thing can touch it.

Hi Leskey,


There is an inverse relationship between the understanding and the ability to speak of it.
At first that can be very frustrating,but it usually settles into a quiet openness.
One can find oneself just watching....and smiling.
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What are we afraid of ?

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Answer:

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Nothing

[austintorn@aol.com]

(Speaking of Clay Pots—from Omar)

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[leskey]

Hi, Austin.

I also have that exact pot.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Greetings, WalMart shoppers…

We have that famous pot in stock,
the very one that Keats used and referred to

— The Life of Art —

Art and poetry enrich human experience,
But they’re no substitutes for the living of it.
Like Keat’s figures on the urn, should we live life less?
NO!—because what is deathless is also lifeless!

[melanie]

Greetings, WalMart shoppers…

We have that famous pot in stock,
the very one that Keats used and referred to

— The Life of Art —

Art and poetry enrich human experience,
But they’re no substitutes for the living of it.
Like Keat’s figures on the urn, should we live life less?
NO!—because what is deathless is also lifeless!

http://www.answers.com/topic/exteriorization

http://www.answers.com/topic/exterio...n-of-motricity

Matter, on this plane of existence, is the vehicle for the manifestion of the Soul.

The Soul, on a higher plane of existence (frequency), is the vehicle for the manifestation of the Spirit.

These Three, are a Trinity (the "Tree of Life") synthesized by Life, which pervades them all.

[melanie]

Here everyone is the same conscious Soul

Here everyone is the one eternal Soul.

Here only the one undivided Soul exists

Why lament, then, O mind? I am the same Self in all.


You are the One who speaks the words I utter.

And I am the One who utters the words you speak.

This happens simultaneously despite the appearance of a delay.

From self to self from love to love.


The only good thing about time is it keeps things from happening all at once.

Every 'event' 'happening' only ever takes place in the PRESENT

Change is an ''appearance'' only, in reality nothing changes, there is only eternal presence.

Manifesting as myriad of forms, form is emptiness, emptiness is form.

It is all the one same self appearing as everything and nothing.

[melanie]

Matter, on this plane of existence, is the vehicle for the manifestion of the Soul.

The Soul, on a higher plane of existence (frequency), is the vehicle for the manifestation of the Spirit.

These Three, are a Trinity (the "Tree of Life") synthesized by Life, which pervades them all.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ9Wrs...eature=related

"The Art of Life", to turn someones "head-around"

The "pot is not "The Potter".

But His handy-work is apparent in the pot.

The only trouble with self-made men is

They worship their Creator! LoL


"Self-will" means, each takes responsiblity, by vitue of the power of choice, for the hole in their heart.

[melanie]

Neither God nor Being nor any other word can define or explain the ineffable reality behind the word,
so the only important question is whether the word is a help or a hindrance in enabling you to experience That toward which it points.

Does it point beyond itself to that transcendental reality,
or does it lend itself too easily to becoming no more than an idea in your head that you believe in, a mental idol?

The word Being explains nothing, but nor does God.
Being, however, has the advantage that it is an open concept.
It does not reduce the infinite invisible to a finite entity.
It is impossible to form a mental image of it.
Nobody can claim exclusive possession of Being.
It is your very essence, and it is immediately accessible to you as the feeling of your own presence,
the realization I am that is prior to I am this or I am that.
So it is only a small step from the word of Being to the experience of Being.

What is the greatest obstacle to experiencing this reality?

Identification with your mind, which causes thought to become compulsive. Not to be able to stop thinking is a dreadful affliction,
but we don't realize this because almost everybody is suffering from it,
so it is considered normal.
This incessant mental noise prevents you from finding that realm of inner stillness that is inseparable from Being.
It also creates a false mind-made self that cast a shadow of fear and suffering.

Identification with your mind creates an opaque screen of concepts, labels, images, words, judgements,and definitions that block all true relationship.

It comes between you and yourself, between you and your fellow man and woman, between you and nature, between you and God.

It is this screen of thought that creates the illusion of separateness, the illusion that there is you and a totally separate "other."
You then forget the essential fact that, underneath the level of physical appearances and separate forms, you are one with all that is.

By "forget," I mean that you can no longer feel this oneness as self-evident reality.
You may believe it to be true, but you no longer know it to be true.
A belief may be comforting. Only through your experience, however, does it become liberating.

Thinking has become a disease.
Disease happens when things get out of balance.
In example, there is nothing wrong with cells dividing and multiplying in the body,
but when this process continues in disregard of the total organism, cells proliferate and we have disease.

The mind is a superb instrument if used rightly. Used wrongly, however, it becomes very destructive.
To put it more accurately, it is not so much that you use your mind wrongly you usually don't use it at all.
It uses you. This is the disease. You believe that you are your mind.
This is the delusion.
The instrument has taken you over.