Is it possible to prove the non-existence of God?

[melanie]

does anybody ever remember being dead ?

[ggullet]

does anybody ever remember being dead ?

one would have to assume that body's have memory. ok one would have to assume ever means at any time, all memory is ever. one would have to assume that being means exsitence and dead means non-exsitence, so they cancel each other out. So yes body's remember.

[austintorn@aol.com]

it is wise to agree that all things are one. [just empty words]

There is no "agreeing" on the unknown. Period.

We only know that we are. All else is just made up.

To go beyond that is assumption: "God" did it. All is one. All is unreal. We reincarnate. We are special as humans. We have a soul. We were dead. etc. (obviously made up, as all try but come up with different things.)

And, no, I don't remember being dead, but that does not mean that I was.

[Mikal]

Hi GG....when it comes to the soul there is no such thing as non existence for it is either here working through a physical body or it is in the etheric realm working there....
Death is just an experience of the physical part of us....


Mikal

[austintorn@aol.com]

MEANING

Some unprovable but suspected happenstance of an origin of the universe has come to present our cognition with reality, our brains putting a better face on what’s out there—and so what can the average person make of it?

Must it be [made up as] a rule-bound experiment that limits us? Yes, some must do this since the mind’s desire is to “know”.

Whether it’s an illusion that’s completely useable as if it were real or an actual reality is a really fine line, one that disappears, since reality exactly matches a useful illusion.

Either way, one can use it, for it does present itself as being here to us, while it—all the atoms of the earth, air, water, and space continue to interact with each other and progress just as they would in he real.

I don’t fall into faith’s trap of declaring the unseeable unknowable as a supernatural to which even more tendencies could be arbitrarily added.

I see what meaning we can get out of the being we have thrust upon us and then help the human race by understanding as much as possible, for dull would he be of soul who could pass by a sight so rare (Wordsworth slightly amended).

I note Fredrick’s oppositional pair of space (where) and matter (what) conjoined with the transitional pair of past (then) and future (when), all of which blend as the spark of the spirit of life or being (who), taking it upward to show who humans are and can be, which any TOE must explain, as well, as we go from past-where or wherefrom(thence or whence) to future-where or whereto (hence) within the past-what or what-then of history into the future-what or what-when of progress, and so forth.

While pretty much agreeing with Nobody that both nonexistence and existence are both seemingly impossible as original sources of reality, just for fun, I’m trying to preserve an actual ultimate reality by employing the Potiential of the possible as having been around forever.

But, no matter, for existence [the concerns of] precedes essense.

Yes, my Potiential theory is absolute TRASH, as are all things that are made up! TRASH. JUNK. LIES. INVENTED. FABRICATED.

To make something up is to say nothing at all.

Example: God [blah blah]

[Profpat]

one would have to assume that body's have memory. ok one would have to assume ever means at any time, all memory is ever. one would have to assume that being means exsitence and dead means non-exsitence, so they cancel each other out. So yes body's remember.

So do you remember being dead gg?

[austintorn@aol.com]

I don't know, what is it.

Hi Prof,

Hard for actual things to have been around forever, as that was an endless time. Even if we allow it, there is still no room for God. I don't understand, though, how a "forever" could have already happened and completed. It does not make sense.

As for 'nothing', there are some places here and there where no thing is, but I'm saying that there is certainly not no thing everywhere.

The inescapable is that it is the Potential/Possible of things that was around forever, these giving rise to our universe and perhaps to many more…

Note that a system of Mind cannot be fundamental, as it is a system and not of elementary primary [little] stuff. This is not to say that here could not be smart Aliens at the other end of the scale of complexity beyond our own.

I like the idea of "God"; it's just that it's a made up concept.

[Profpat]

MEANING

Some unprovable but suspected happenstance of an origin of the universe has come to present our cognition with reality, our brains putting a better face on what’s out there—and so what can the average person make of it?

Must it be [made up as] a rule-bound experiment that limits us? Yes, some must do this since the mind’s desire is to “know”.

Whether it’s an illusion that’s completely useable as if it were real or an actual reality is a really fine line, one that disappears, since reality exactly matches a useful illusion.

Either way, one can use it, for it does present itself as being here to us, while it—all the atoms of the earth, air, water, and space continue to interact with each other and progress just as they would in he real.

I don’t fall into faith’s trap of declaring the unseeable unknowable as a supernatural to which even more tendencies could be arbitrarily added.

I see what meaning we can get out of the being we have thrust upon us and then help the human race by understanding as much as possible, for dull would he be of soul who could pass by a sight so rare (Wordsworth slightly amended).

I note Fredrick’s oppositional pair of space (where) and matter (what) conjoined with the transitional pair of past (then) and future (when), all of which blend as the spark of the spirit of life or being (who), taking it upward to show who humans are and can be, which any TOE must explain, as well, as we go from past-where or wherefrom(thence or whence) to future-where or whereto (hence) within the past-what or what-then of history into the future-what or what-when of progress, and so forth.

While pretty much agreeing with Nobody that both nonexistence and existence are both seemingly impossible as original sources of reality, just for fun, I’m trying to preserve an actual ultimate reality by employing the Potiential of the possible as having been around forever.

But, no matter, for existence [the concerns of] precedes essense.

Yes, my Potiential theory is absolute TRASH, as are all things that are made up! TRASH. JUNK. LIES. INVENTED. FABRICATED.

To make something up is to say nothing at all.

Example: God [blah blah]

Shhhhhh!!

And listen to the sound of silence

[ggullet]

Hi GG....when it comes to the soul there is no such thing as non existence for it is either here working through a physical body or it is in the etheric realm working there....
Death is just an experience of the physical part of us....


Mikal

Mikal, please define soul without using words that only repeat the same thought. exactly, undefinable. every word we use is just they way we try to explain the unexplainable. no disrespect to Descarte, but thinking and being may have nothing to do with each other. I am therefore I am.

[ggullet]

So do you remember being dead gg?

once something is it can never not be.