Is it possible to prove the non-existence of God?

[melanie]

No, he is not. And he is not ap-parent either. As real as any hu-man can get.

p.s. the ap-parent is not ape-parent.

OH, i get it now thanks Mohan for explaining that to me.
That's such a cool play on words.
I wondered all night what austin meant, and i couldn't figure it.
I'm very slow you know, i've always lived in the slow lane.

Austin keeps me in the dark. Bah!

Warm regards to you both

melanie.

[melanie]

I'm sorry, it's my bad English. Thanks for your reply and kudos to you because you have understood the point I was trying to make perfectly.

Exactly what I was trying to point out. "It just knows", I am just trying to find out how is it that it knows. That is where the concept of god emerges according to me, natures obeys the laws it does, because god designed it in such a way.

Is that necessarily true?

Thanks,
Melanie

There is nothing wrong with your english mohan, it beats me at my own game, and i'm from england.

I think what you've said in your post depicts the reality of god.
God can only ever be a god of your own understanding.

My answer to your post mohan, is that reality is what ever you believe it to be.
Because the universe always says your right what ever you believe is true.

All i know is that ever since i realized that i am not the doer, i have felt nothing but the most amazing bliss and relief.
And that's all i feel now.


It's always a pleasure to communicate with you mohan.

Thanks mo

[Mohan.C]

There is nothing wrong with your english mohan, it beats me at my own game, and i'm from england.

I think what you've said in your post depicts the reality of god.
God can only ever be a god of your own understanding.

I agree, and I also think god is a limit to human understanding. I am not saying that the concept of god curbs the will to understand or anything. I am just saying that, god is what we cannot understand. Like infinity, we do not understand infinity, because infinity is a limit to human understanding. The same way as zero, its not possible to understand zero, because zero is 'no' understanding, and understanding it will be a contradiction.

It is not possible to prove the non- existence of god. But, the concept of god is not necessary for scientific study, or science does not need to prove the existence of god or the non-existence of it.

My answer to your post mohan, is that reality is what ever you believe it to be.
Because the universe always says your right what ever you believe is true.

Yeah, however I would say it like, the universe never says we are wrong, because the universe is not concerned about what we believe it to be. We can believe lions can bark, the universe will not say it's wrong, it wont say it's right either. 'silence means yes'

All i know is that ever since i realized that i am not the doer, i have felt nothing but the most amazing bliss and relief.
And that's all i feel now.


It's always a pleasure to communicate with you mohan.

Thanks mo

The universe is in good hands, but its not ours, we are more like in a play. Just play the part you are given, you can ask questions and change the script if you want to. But, that makes little difference because your changing the script is also written in the script. I don't think god wrote the script, the script is being written with every small change in the universe, time is a measure of motion. When there is motion, there is time. When there is time there is existence. And we are part of the existence.

Thanks,

p.s. 'you' does not mean you Melanie.

[melanie]

I agree, and I also think god is a limit to human understanding. I am not saying that the concept of god curbs the will to understand or anything. I am just saying that, god is what we cannot understand. Like infinity, we do not understand infinity, because infinity is a limit to human understanding. The same way as zero, its not possible to understand zero, because zero is 'no' understanding, and understanding it will be a contradiction.

http://www.crystalinks.com/greggbraden.html

Exactly Mohan.

Thinking about the concept of god blocks it.
IT is SEEN with ordinary functional senses.
The mind cannot grasp it, because it is beyond the mind.
It cannot be contained.
Your ideas are very similar to what UGK says when he quotes '' There is Nothing to Understand ''

It is not possible to prove the non- existence of god. But,
the concept of god is not necessary for scientific study,
or science does not need to prove the existence of god or the non-existence of it.

Like any other 'conceptual' thought, like an-other cloud passing in the clear blue sky,or an-other wave upon the Ocean of Oneness.

All arising in the Oneness we Is [I Am] Here and Now.

Yeah, however I would say it like, the universe never says we are wrong,
because the universe is not concerned about what we believe it to be.
We can believe lions can bark, the universe will not say it's wrong, it wont say it's right either.

'silence means yes'

When the mind is still.

The background stands out and swallows "me" completely.

"I" do not exist, as once thought before.


You have a fine understanding of the metaphysical Mohan.
And that's just it...there is no-thing to understand cos your IT

Namaste
melanie.

[Mohan.C]

http://www.crystalinks.com/greggbraden.html

Exactly Mohan.

Thinking about the concept of god blocks it.
IT is SEEN with ordinary functional senses.
The mind cannot grasp it, because it is beyond the mind.
It cannot be contained.
Your ideas are very similar to what UGK says when he quotes '' There is Nothing to Understand ''

There is nothing to understand, there is only to realize
-Mohan.C
I had this as a signature back in like 2006,
It's nice to know it's not completely wrong.
And who's UGK, I googled it but didn't find anything.

Like any other 'conceptual' thought, like an-other cloud passing in the clear blue sky,or an-other wave upon the Ocean of Oneness.

All arising in the Oneness we Is [I Am] Here and Now.


When the mind is still.

The background stands out and swallows "me" completely.

"I" do not exist, as once thought before.

I am a separate entity, but I'm part of the machinery.

You have a fine understanding of the metaphysical Mohan.
And that's just it...there is no-thing to understand cos your IT

Namaste
melanie.

Thanks.

[Mikal]

The mind may be limited to understand what God is but the mind and consciousness is not limited to "know" the nature of God which is very different than having a belief. Oneness is an intra-psychic experience for the psyche/soul to re-member back to the source. This experience is a possiblity for every human for we embody our soul/psyche and it is a Universal principle of life, mind and consciousness. It is an experience only possible to be experienced if one undergoes what is called "the great work" which was the preoccupation of the ancient Alchemists and then ended up being the life work of Carl Jung to amass the information and bring it forward as knowledge about life and the ongoing development of the psyche/mind and consciousness......


Mikal

[melanie]

There is nothing to understand, there is only to realize
-Mohan.C
I had this as a signature back in like 2006,
It's nice to know it's not completely wrong.


And who's UGK, I googled it but didn't find anything.

http://ug-k.blogspot.com/



I love the guy.

[Mohan.C]

The mind may be limited to understand what God is but the mind and consciousness is not limited to "know" the nature of God which is very different than having a belief. Oneness is an intra-psychic experience for the psyche/soul to re-member back to the source. This experience is a possiblity for every human for we embody our soul/psyche and it is a Universal principle of life, mind and consciousness. It is an experience only possible to be experienced if one undergoes what is called "the great work" which was the preoccupation of the ancient Alchemists and then ended up being the life work of Carl Jung to amass the information and bring it forward as knowledge about life and the ongoing development of the psyche/mind and consciousness......


Mikal

But, since I don't believe the mind is limited, I still think god can be understood. God is a concept, that is all there is to understand about god. Whatever we need to understand more, is about reality, god is not real. It's a concept which is used to fill in the blanks left in our understanding of reality. God, is a limit because reality cannot be understood without the knowing of 'The beginning', which will always be left blank. But, we can fill it with the word god, to feel more secure.

[Mohan.C]

http://ug-k.blogspot.com/



I love the guy.

UGK is U.G.Krishnamurthy. Ok, I have heard of this guy. I couldn't recognize his initials.

Thanks.

[Mikal]

But, since I don't believe the mind is limited, I still think god can be understood. God is a concept, that is all there is to understand about god. Whatever we need to understand more, is about reality, god is not real. It's a concept which is used to fill in the blanks left in our understanding of reality. God, is a limit because reality cannot be understood without the knowing of 'The beginning', which will always be left blank. But, we can fill it with the word god, to feel more secure.

Re-member back to the source, which is your personal, individual blueprint of information from the source and a veil breaks away from the eyes... and reality, the world and society you are born into is fully understood...NO MORE ILLUSION because the psyche has broken out of mass, conditioned collective consciousness....this is a mystery of life...


Mikal