Is it possible to prove the non-existence of God?

[leskey]

The Bible is man-made and so it only has man-made wisdom...

There is a small point here that we agree upon, Austin.

Only Man possesses the powers of language and wisdom. The Bible, and any written record, is only applicable to modern Man, who alone also has the motivation and ability to keep records (for those among us that are interested in the specific record, that is).

Dinosaurs however, are within the laws of physics, but the bible hasn't much to say about them because Noah complained that he would need a separate Ark for each and every one ...

LOL! So it's just as well they were all extinct by then!

[Mikal]

Its presumptuous to think we haven't



Theres no 'accounting' for taste Prof ... lol



Wise words



I bet Mikal bets on every number when she plays roulette in the Casino ... plus the red and black ... lol


cool bananas ... greg

Hi cool bananas....so nice to see the presence of your dry sense of humour back here at the TOE.....this humour so delights me...

Actually I try to squeeze in one casino visit a year into my busy schedule with my research. The roulette is not my game on that day...I like the slots...I like the sound of the dropping ca ching...ca ching...for the universe gives me many rewards...is very good to me...yet rule of Universal Law...moderation in all things....must not take advantage...eh!!! smiles...


Mikal

[Profpat]

You are correct Greg, there is no accounting for taste.

How some people don't see the wisdom, truth and beauty in the ancient sacred texts, including the Bible, which are thousands of years old, is beyond my comprehension.

My only guess is that they are anal retentive and are into " black holes "

Best,

Pat

[melanie]

He who knows everything,but lacks from within,knows nothing.

The Universal Law of Creation is the Law of even the smallest particle of dust known, that from which an atom is made.

Humanity was created from this dust, yet humankind ignores the Law of their own creation.
It is not a matter of faith that brings humanity forward,it is Knowledge that accomplishes this.

Faith in that which is not within the Universal Law is a faith of fear and destruction from within.
This is the path humanity has chosen because they have placed their faith in false idols of men,
rather than in the Universal Law of Creation each possesses from within.

You have heard it said that there is no law above Love.
Yet humanity places their faith in a temporal love that can be changed by selfish desires of others.
This is not true Love.


From within, all must find the Knowledge of how to Love and be Loved through the Universal Law of Creation.

[All the intellect in the world will not bring you to Creation Love.]
The Light within all of humanity is the Knowledge of Love.
The shadows of the light are imitators and illusions.

If your inner Light cannot be seen outwardly, then you have not found the Universal Law of Creation, Love.
Unless you Love Creation itself, you cannot be Loved by Creation. It's a two-way street.

Creation Love binds all things together.
Humanity exists to Love and be Loved.
There is no other way, and any substitute is not Love.



Beloved

[austintorn@aol.com]

How some people don't see the wisdom, truth and beauty in the ancient sacred texts, including the Bible, which are thousands of years old, is beyond my comprehension.

Prof, of course we (Leskey and I and others) find man-made wisdom and such in the Bible; it just that it is not Divine wisdom; otherwise it is a fine piece of literature beginning with some ancient Jewish legends of many Gods rolled into One who favors His chosen tribe… plus some actual history… and a bunch of made-up stuff in between.

A garden enclosed is my sister, my spouse, a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

A fountain of gardens, a well of flowing waters, and streams from Lebanon.

Let my beloved come into his garden and eat his pleasant fruits.

I am my beloveds and my beloved is mine, he feedeth among the lillies.


He brought me to the banqueting house and his banner over me was love.

I sat down under his shadow and his fruit was sweet to my taste.

Thou art all fair my love, there is no spot in thee.

The joints of thy thighs are like jewels, the work of the hands of a cunning workman.

This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes.

And our bed is green.

How fair is thy love, my sister, my spouse! How much better is thy love than wine!


(A clean version)

[Profpat]

I never claimed it was Divine Austin. It is interesting that they talk about a creation to the universe and the steps of evolution, in correct order, and that that they knew we were dust, though. Something only today science is realizing.

The Gita talks about fields of dreams, science hasn't quite come to that realization yet.

The TAO has been talking about complementary polarity, long before science came up with the concept of positive/negative charges.

It's my BELIEF that these and other sacred texts have much to offer humanity if READ with an OPEN mind.

Best,

Pat

P.S. Why are you bringing into this discussion Leskey and others. I'm sure they are very capable of speaking for themselves.

[Mikal]

Aries-masculine-yang-left brain
Taurus-feminine-yin-right brain
Gemini-masculine-yang-left brain
Cancer-feminine-yin-right brain
Leo-masculine-yang-left brain
Virgo-feminine-yin-right brain
Libra-masculine-yang-left brain
Scorpio-feminine-yin-right brain
Sagittarius-masculine-yang-left brain
Capricorn-feminine-yin-right brain
Aquarius-masculine-yang-left brain
Pisces-feminine-yin-right brain

Yang is conscious and yin is unconscious>complimentary polarity>positive and negative charge....


Mikal

[leskey]

Anyway, ProfMel, since you two are one now about illusion and figmentation, a small detail overlooked is that you made up that God made you up.

God is more truly imagined than expressed, and He exists more truly than He is imagined.

Are we saying the same thing then?

I mean, if I can "imagine" (make up) God, who's to say that he can't "imagine" me?

[austintorn@aol.com]

P.S. Why are you bringing into this discussion Leskey

Because Leskey is cool… and we have a friendly rivalry, but sometimes we actually agree, such as Prof and Mel do with all being a figment…


Mikal,

Yaun is the subconscious between yin and yang…


Leskey,

Who is to say [anything].

[austintorn@aol.com]

THE SIMPLE TOE THAT EXPLAINS ALL

Before time was the timeless—all at once;
Before form was the formless—everything.
Existence had to be since something IS,
For nonexistence is an impossibility.

Quarks, photons, and electrons were of
Possibility, either a lot or a bit,
(Along with dark matter, dark energy}
Which collects from gravity into stars.

The strong force stabilizes matter,
The weak force disperses matter;
Electromagnetic force allows movement.
Gravity arises from all of the above.

Stars generate the basic elements;
Supernovae generate all the rest.
These atoms form molecules that lead to
Life’s complexity—from simplicity.

RNA tracks successes, failures meet death;
Luck, time, and accidents evolve the species.
Appearances in motion grant our being
Through their what-where and then-now-when.

The brain interprets reality and puts
A face on the waves of sound, light, color, touch,
And a sense on molecules’ smell and taste.
Consciousness is the brain’s perception of itself.

We operate through the where-to and where-from,
Using the what-then and the what-when of matter,
Leading to history, progress, wishes,
And remembrance, or being—

All made possible through the movement of
Appearances that creates past (then) and
Future (when) through the now, along with
Matter (what) in space’s place (where).

So, the Theory of Everything after
Reality Was Generated:

Being = matter moving through space from possibility.