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View Poll Results: what is your position about god?
atheist 10 20.83%
theist 22 45.83%
agnostic 6 12.50%
other (please specify) 11 22.92%
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12-16-2006, 01:03 PM
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Taken from the central thought,from the book,Gnani Yoga,by Yogi Ramacharaka,Quote
"There is but one power in the universe-oneenergy-one force.And that power,energy and force is a manifestation of the one life.There can be no other power,for there is none other than the One from whom Power may come.And there can be no manifestation of
power that is not the Power of the One,for no other Power can be in existence.
The power of the one is visible in its manifestations to us in the natural laws and forces of nature-which we call the Creative Will.This Creative Will is the inner moving power,urge
and pressure behind all forms and shapes of life.In atom,and molecule;in monad,in cell,in plant,in fish,in animal,in man,in man-the life Principle or creative will is constantly in action,creating,preserving,and carrying on life in its functions.
All forms of being ,matter,energy,force,and power,is the Absolute-ever calm;ever peaceful,ever content.In knowing this it becomes us to manifest that spirit of absolute
trust,faith and confidence,in the goodness and ultimate justice of That which is the only
Reality there is"unquote.

Well that about sums it up for me!

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Jim,

It is true that there is no adjective or adverb for God itself. I only stated it as "perfect" in relation to a previous post. Things have to be taken a step at a time, unless I was to post a very long explanation. I'm glad you made this point.

If by "all x god", you mean all is God, I certainly agree that would be illogical.

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I have a question too: why do you guys need this "magic" when everything you look at, from toilets to distant stars is one of the most improbable combination of things unimaginable?
I think it's fair to say that without God, the description you've given = magic.

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You are right. Anything without a source has no meaning. Because if God existed without any source, then all our laws of Physics that we know and have proven today are wrong.
Which, as I quoted earlier, Einstein thought was quite possible. Since he said that in 1954, we have certainly made great strides in applied science, but when it comes to making an advance in theory, we have accomplished nothing more than speculation.

Michael,

Remember he says the power emanates from the absolute by "infilling". So there is no power within, but only the reflection of the power from without. At the center of each of all of the "one-life", there is only a passive (reflective) principle. The active (focus/will) principle comes from without.

I'm not sure if this is what you are saying or not.

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The greatest One (God), is the eternal Oneness of All, in every possible world.By Aiya-Oba.
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The greatest One (God), is the eternal Oneness of All, in every possible world.By Aiya-Oba.
God is beyond, the eternal Oneness of All, in every possible world.

Being beyond, however, does not mean it is separate from it.
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The greatest One (God), is the eternal Oneness of All, in every possible world.By Aiya-Oba.
The glory of one,will outshine the sun,peace and happiness come from,thy will be done!

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For all of you single god fans I think there is a wish for "happy ending" mixed in with speculation. I think the jury is still out on that.
Looking at the evidence, at the unextinquishable struggle for existence (without compromise) I can only see competing forces trying at best to communicate with each other.
Spacetime is a limited "theater" where the actors have enduring connections to perhaps 6 other dimensions. Didn't you used to wander when in the theater how the actors eat, dress, procreate etc? Of course not because you were familiar with those other dinemsions the actors had connections to.
In the "spacetime theater" you don't. I sure can't. I can only look at the play and say that the conflicts expressed thereon have something to do with the connections beyond the play as most things more or less mirror or shadow their neighbors in the scheme of things.
You say to this NONSENSE. There is only ONE very happy thing beyond the evidence who entertains itself by inventing a bloody history who is otherwise a very nice "force" in its single totality free of criminal schizophrenia?
Or else it is a happy warrior as in the Nordic, Greek and many many other legends? But the play is about predator and prey! The warrior ethic and survival at all costs is different.
All I can do is look at the struggle and try to beat it. Whether I can beat it "for good" is an open question. Honestly, I think this is what all this is about.
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I see you like to make up your own private rules of logic___try scientific logic for once, as based in Aristotle's three axioms. You just may find your wrong...

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There has never been an explanation for the something that has no source.[What is cold, Eric?]

To know what the something is, requires "no source" to be established first.[Says who, you god? I think I'll stick with the established rules of logic, thanks...]

Any speculation including infinite, does not satisfy the rules of logic, in trying to arrive at a single something.[Wrong, again... Logic always arrives at a single something, it's just the interpretations that drive you mad...]

"I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept, i.e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." (Albert Einstein, 1954)
Ya know Eric, if you'd just recognize the fact that Einstein said just about everything, on all sides of these subjects, in his entire lifetime, that it is impossible for them to have any meaning taken out of context___so you may as well quit throwing out his most pessimistic frame of mind comments...
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Dear God, forgive me for I have sinned...

I anthromorphised you into existence. I convinced myself that you were in everything I see. You were ... my best Natural Selection.... but now your time is up......

Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa ... Tears drop from Graybeard's eyes as he enters the Many worlds Pub.... He is heard mumbling ... 'First Santa Claus ... Now God ...'

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Lets not live in an imaginary world. Here we have to be practical and disprove things that cannot be proven..




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The very word source implies a "starting place" from which the "thing" originated from,in
the case of God,this is non-applicable,as God is the exception to all universal laws,
although God is within the law,IT also transcends it as well simultaneously.And as God is
Absolute and eternal,It eternally IS!The very LIFE of all LIFE,in which we all live and move
and have our imaginary being?


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