[Eric]

I love the fear I smell in this imaginary world. Oh no, it can't be imaginary! It just has to be real! It has to be! Oh my God, it has to be!

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by dipayankar

Lets not live in an imaginary world. Here we have to be practical and disprove things that cannot be proven..

I agree my friend,all we need to do is look within,and find that real world!

regards michael.

[dipayankar]

You see God within, I see just biological organs. Thats where the difference in perception lies...

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

I agree my friend,all we need to do is look within,and find that real world!

regards michael.

[jim barlow]

God is dead.
Nietzsche

Nietzsche is dead.
God

[mkirkpatrick]

A simple way of looking at this is;Good
Orderly
Direction=God.

Or prehaps;Go
On
Deliver=God.


Or even;Gathering
Of
Data=God.

All roads they say lead to Rome,equally we could also say all lives lead to God,eventually!

regards michael.

[Eric]

God is outside of ALL and not inside of any.

[jim barlow]

Finally we arrived at the hub of the issue: inside vs outside.

Here I humbly submit there ain't no such thing as "outside".
That concept arises from social conventions: chattering monkeys getting along. The fiction of an "outside" is created to scratch each other's backs. This is stretched all the way to banking and supreme courts.

"Seek not your father in the stars. There chaos dwells and Og and Anak old." (William Blake)

All is perception and imagination and as such: inside.

That external concept leads nowhere and cannot be found. Cannot be proved or disproved. It is like an orbiting tea kettle around Neptune.

[Eric]

Outside of ALL does not mean outside of EACH.

To label "all as perception and imagination", is to give us credit where credit is not due.

All is there to precieve and imagine, but all (including our perception and imagination), are there because of the God beyond all.

There is no God inside of God, just false absolutes we mistakenly create. Including the banks and the supreme court, and Jesus and all of the rest of them.

Is it really impossible to prove God?

[mkirkpatrick]

We are as tear drops in the eye of the one,when enough tears have been shed,the ocean
is once again full,and the land is no more??


regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by Eric

Outside of ALL does not mean outside of EACH.

To label "all as perception and imagination", is to give us credit where credit is not due.

All is there to precieve and imagine, but all (including our perception and imagination), are there because of the God beyond all.

There is no God inside of God, just false absolutes we mistakenly create. Including the banks and the supreme court, and Jesus and all of the rest of them.

Is it really impossible to prove God?

How could anyone hope to prove the non-existent? You know, the easiest way to subdue this debate between the spiritists and the scientists, is to state these simple differences___The spiritists state mind produces matter, or matter is mind, and the scientists state matter produces mind, but if mind produces matter, what is mind made of, since it must absolutely be made of something, to not be something from nothing, then the laws of science and logic require it to be matter___then the question becomes when did matter produce mind? I say the bio-age___what say you?

regards,