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View Poll Results: what is your position about god?
atheist 10 20.83%
theist 22 45.83%
agnostic 6 12.50%
other (please specify) 11 22.92%
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03-30-2007, 07:00 AM
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I think your questions are legitimate. I am using shorthand terms that need to be cleared up. Ask me again some time later. Right now you seem to be in a propagandist mode.

My conviction is that this "religious" thing may be genetic, similar to sexual preferences.

No amount of discussion could convince the other why a woman or a man if the preference is not lodged in the genes (or some very basic inclination) in the other already.

Language was not invented for that. Part of the "rule of two" (I should add) is this inevitebility of disagreement that takes over groups that previously were unanimous.

What you're talking about I consider a phenomenon that is either in step with the times or outmoded, needing renewal. Your "big 3" is about 2000 years out of date.

Renewal is in progress as we speak. Your "big 3" was a renewal too 2000 years ago.

Let us stay open and renew our beliefs like the fields in spring or the species adapt themselves to ever changing environments.
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being judged by god is me worst fear
clear out your wardrobe before you go as god will be thy judge and hell will be your destiny
i dont believe in god but he scares the hell out of me
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I thought ghosts and evil spirits scares us...

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11-23-2007, 04:58 PM
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I personally only believe in personal judgment, i.e. I judge myself. Though I have to admit I'd rather be judged by Jesus Christ ( God or not ) in that I think he would be a far more compassionate and merciful judge than I am on myself.

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In the beginning was the force. There was only the force. The force existed in the midst of nothing. It was in the midst because nothing has no edge or part there was nothing but the midst of nothing. This force is the primary force that is the basis of all things. This force is both a duality and a singularity of force. There is the force to bring all things together onto thyself. This is the natural of the divine singularity. There is only the One I AM. The one however does not exist alone as to be one only, but as The One to be. There is also the force to continue. This is for the One to be, to be forever.

This is the living multiverse. The primary force is a bipolar force, with one pole as gravity that is responsible for the field that is space, and one pole that is continue that is responsible for the field that is time. This field that is continue is also the constant that is at the basis of all life and that all life is one single organism that is the image of the divine force within which we were created by the tool of the divine that is natural selection. This being done in the time scale that is of the Divine’s own doing.

This multiverse has 2 existence mediums. One is the one that we are familiar with of 3dimensional space and 1 dimensional time. This place that we know has no permanent resident as there is but a single strand of time here, so that all must have a beginning and must have an end. This is a place for a single dimensional existence to experience a 3 dimensional realm. This is a place where we (as a single dimensional existence) are to learn about the divine 3 dimensional existence.

The other existence medium is of 3 dimensional time and one dimension of space. This is a place where a being can be 3 dimensional and can exist within all time at the same time. The rest of this universe is a single dimensional medium that is as a data universe. Like what we might call a hyperspace medium. Like what is the basis for a digital computer memory. This results with a 3 dimensional being that exists within the perfect hyperspace memory medium. A being that experiences all 3 dimensional space and all 3 dimensional time at the same point and instance. It experiences as we all experience our point of creation that is at NOW it experiences this cumulatively.


I came by this theory because of following a trail that begins with the dilemma of free will in the theory of determinism. This began for me in 1970. This led me to a series of coincidences that I could not ignore as random. I tried to follow but the thought required that the primary force was to be seen as a bi-pole.

I learned how to use predicate calculus to see if there was something that I could learn about these thoughts that would either disprove them so I could move on or give me a new direction to look into.

The first predicate that I derived that made any sense was to look at the bi-pole. This generated a predicate that showed that the primary force when shown as a bipole was not symmetrical. As follows:

(gravity(space,matter,energy)3),(continue(time,bei ng,creation)1) This is not symmetrical.

I still had my initial documents sent to the library of congress for registration as a copyright.
This was called “Unit Unity Community” and was registered in 1987.

In this document I indicated that I expected to one day discover that our universe consisted of 11 dimensions. As this would result with symmetry of a predicate of the bi-pole primary force.

After receiving copyright I did no more on this project until I read “The Elegant Universe” by Brian Green. This gave me hope that string theory, super string theory or M theory might result with the multiverse theory that could allow the primary force to be seen as a bi-pole.

During this time I did research in AI in the fields of (simulation) (natural language) and (ALF)
The information that I accumulated during that time in all of these areas increased my abilities with Predicate calculus and gave me a new perspective on the act of being.



((((space,matter,energy)3),((time,being,creation)1 )),(((time,being,creation)3)((space,matter,energy) 1)))
This predicate shows only 8 dimensions it is not showing the membrane that is a 3 dimensional interface to these 2, 4 dimensional existence mediums.

See the following link to see information on the membrane.

http://Unit-Unity-Community.com

To sum this all up: I guess that I am a monotheist brought to this conclusion by research and experience.
There is considerable evidence for data to become aware and it’s natural tendency to merge is indicative of the drive toward One God.

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We judge ourselves,there is no greater judge of man,than man himself,conscience is the
judge,jury,and executioner,which is perfectly balanced within the soul.God has no need to
intervene,as this would go contrary to natural/divine law.


I know that many will say there are some "without"conscience or remorse,how will they
judge themselves? When the outer shell is removed (physical body)It becomes very
apparent "what sort of person we are?With the dense physical body removed,we are
exposed for what we truly are,and all those nearby can clearly see,if not at first,then
after a period,we are assailed by our conscience,there is no escape from it,we have to
deal with it,sooner or later,theres no hurry though,you have all the time in the world!

It really depends on how long you can stand the unrelenting pressure to address the
imbalance you have caused,and how much disharmony you can take.



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spot on Mike are they your own words the last sentence actualy makes me feel good
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Yes swoarg,they are indeed my own words,I am grateful they were of some use to you.



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We judge ourselves,there is no greater judge of man,than man himself,conscience is the
judge,jury,and executioner,which is perfectly balanced within the soul.God has no need to
intervene,as this would go contrary to natural/divine law.


I know that many will say there are some "without"conscience or remorse,how will they
judge themselves? When the outer shell is removed (physical body)It becomes very
apparent "what sort of person we are?With the dense physical body removed,we are
exposed for what we truly are,and all those nearby can clearly see,if not at first,then
after a period,we are assailed by our conscience,there is no escape from it,we have to
deal with it,sooner or later,theres no hurry though,you have all the time in the world!

It really depends on how long you can stand the unrelenting pressure to address the
imbalance you have caused,and how much disharmony you can take.



regards michael.
michael, that is how I look at it also. I feel that the 'Hell', they talk about going through after leaving the humanoid we exist in, is the 'Hell' of one's 'regret' of their actions in Life. We all know how painful 'regret' is.
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