[mkirkpatrick]

Enton,thanks for your post,and I hope all goes well for you this week,we are
souls with bodies,and not bodies with souls!one thing that puzzled me though about your post,and that was when you said "quote,Enton,only God of spirits
can kill these two components of a human being,"unquote meaning the soul and
spirit!My question Enton is why would God want to do this!!!!!






kindest regards michael.

[enton]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Enton,thanks for your post,and I hope all goes well for you this week,we are souls with bodies,and not bodies with souls!one thing that puzzled me though about your post,and that was when you said "quote,Enton,only God of spirits can kill these two components of a human being,"unquote meaning the soul and spirit!My question Enton is why would God want to do this!!!!! kindest regards michael.

God just indicated that in fairness to those who obey His will. Human beings especially normal ones feel pain when hurt physically or emotionally. But God does not want people (especially those who hope for God's mercy) to suffer because of deceit. Lucifer( Isaiah 14:12) was once an angel of God but he exalted himself and does not abide in the truth(John 8:44) that God conceals a thing (Proverbs 25:2).

I just mention that because there are people who believes that a soul can be killed by men. Matthew 10:28 says " And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. "

[mkirkpatrick]

I think that the real proof of this,is just take a look in the mirror,who Really is
looking back at you,is it that you that will just live and die,Or is it That real You
that will persist for all eternity,science has already proved it,its just that nobody
has told them yet!!!





kind regards michael.

[Guille]

Ok, I'm going to make one more reply in this thread, this time about it's retarded title.

First:

1. The soul is NOT a scientific element.
2. Scientific proofs can only be made about scientific elements.
__________________________________________________ ______

3. Thus, there can be no scientific proof about the soul.


And Second:

1. The scientific proof cannot proof elements in the way that the soul can be proved.
2. The way the soul can be proven is a proof that is not proof.
__________________________________________________ _________

3. Thus, the soul cannot be proven in any way.

[Mr. Nobody]

Look into "Emergence". All systems at reasonable complexity develop an envelop of existence, akin to something called soul. Be it a computer that acts up again, or your dog that crapped on your carpet for the nth time, neither of which can be explained in strict physics sense alone.
Emergence explains the above. We are nothing more than a congragation of matter which reached high complexity in its attempt to stave off local entropy and now is at a loss to explain the consciousness it developed and find reason within a cosmos without reason.
Existence is and that is all.

[SinJin]

I know this is a little late, but I had to mention it - Marco Biagini has a PhD in physics yet he spells it "phylosophy" in his paper on the link he posted. Marco Biagini I think you should clean the essay up a little bit and it'll be more respectful.

[dleviwing]

SinJin;
How many languages do you read and write in??

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by <<>> Ok, I'm going to make one more reply in this thread, this time about it's retarded title. First: 1. The soul is NOT a scientific element. 2. Scientific proofs can only be made about scientific elements. __________________________________________________ ______ 3. Thus, there can be no scientific proof about the soul. And Second: 1. The scientific proof cannot proof elements in the way that the soul can be proved. 2. The way the soul can be proven is a proof that is not proof. __________________________________________________ _________ 3. Thus, the soul cannot be proven in any way.

there is no Real thing in this universe that can ever be Proven,can you prove Love!you can see effects of what you call love,but you try and Prove it!you will fail my Amigo!
we all accept love,but we cannot prove it,we cannot see it,we do not know what shape it is!there is know mathamatical formula that can find the square root of it,we take these things on faith,or from personal experiance,the soul is
real to many millions of humans,with some it is just a theory,with others it is a fact,to you it has no merit or reality,well that is today,fastforward your life to say 50 years from now,and maybe it will be a different story?If a UFO landed on the lawn of the white-house so would believe that aliens had landed ,while the skeptics would say that iswas really just some new Stealth Plane!
kind regards michael.

[quanta07]

What about Kirlian photography?

Kirlian proposed and promoted the idea that the resulting images of living objects were a physical proof of the life force or aura which allegedly surrounds all living beings. This claim was said to be supported by experiments by the Kirlians that involved cutting part of a leaf off; the Kirlian images of such leaves, it was said, still showed the leaves as whole, as though the cutting had never happened.

Skeptics about the paranormal have long disputed the claims made concerning auras and Kirlian photography.

Question: Are we seeing our soul?

Happy Thougths.........Q7

[dleviwing]

Q7;
I like the comment about Kirlian-photogrophy that states:
If you strap 50,000 volts of RF energy to you’re a$$, you will glow.
This is electrical discharge just as it is in a plasma lamp when you place your finger on the globe. The plasma forms around the shape of your finger.
I have made the Kirlian device. I found it makes pretty pictures, that's all.
Best wishes;
Dave