Primal Principle.

[mkirkpatrick]

I maintain that this universe is "under law" and that all manifestations and energy exchanges are all within this
law.

I have called this thread the primal principle because I
feel most strongly that all universal laws eminate from
just one primal principle.

Confusion seems to manifest because of many apparent
laws manifesting,and not realizing "they" ALL stem from
just One primal principle.


What then is the primal principle?

tbc.

regards michael.

[dolly]

Hi Michael. Believe i get your gist and for the most part agree. However i have trouble with the word law. In my experience it's a word which limits/stifles, surpresses/confindes. For myself the universe is an entity, creature or whatever definition one finds comfortable, without limits/bounds and unknown abilities or predictable development.
Having said that, i do sense (as you put it) a primal principle, which is a process/progression not of want or need but just cause PEACE dolly

[mkirkpatrick]

Hi Michael. Believe i get your gist and for the most part agree. However i have trouble with the word law. In my experience it's a word which limits/stifles, surpresses/confindes. For myself the universe is an entity, creature or whatever definition one finds comfortable, without limits/bounds and unknown abilities or predictable development.
Having said that, i do sense (as you put it) a primal principle, which is a process/progression not of want or need but just cause PEACE dolly

Many thanks for your reply dolly,I agree law does bring
up some constricting conotations,which is why I use the word principle.


regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

What is the primal priciple from which I believe all other principles arise from? Is it consciousness?Is it that thing called (love unconditional)?Motion arises from what?There
are many questions,what about some answers? Have we
got any?

A principle within a principle,within a principle,that's how I
see it,involution first,a momentary pause,then the unraveling and the sequence of evolution commences.


tbc.


regards michael.

[melanie]

Hi Michael

How about empty principles & full principles ?

But that doesn't say a WHOLE lot now.

Does it, or no..?


The hole makes the ring appear.

And the ring makes the hole appear.

Absolute and Relative perhaps?

Circles within Circles....Dreams within Dreams.

[Mikal]

Hi Michael....the earliest primal state of the beginning of human life is in the womb and is the pre-egoic state. The ego being the structure through which we will understand life and differentiate our own existence....

Jung implied in Aion....the pre-egoic state is an initial pre-condition which holds all possibilities, all potentialities, all undifferentiated opposites which will define all conditions of consciousness....

Seems like the pre-egoic state may be the primal principle promising consciousness....also the pre-egoic state can be considered 0 or the void......


Mikal

[mkirkpatrick]

Hi Michael....the earliest primal state of the beginning of human life is in the womb and is the pre-egoic state. The ego being the structure through which we will understand life and differentiate our own existence....

Jung implied in Aion....the pre-egoic state is an initial pre-condition which holds all possibilities, all potentialities, all undifferentiated opposites which will define all conditions of consciousness....

Seems like the pre-egoic state may be the primal principle promising consciousness....also the pre-egoic state can be considered 0 or the void......


Mikal

I see what you mean Mikal,thanks,on a wider scale I was thinking of the process that "set off" the physical universe
and the sequence of events that produced the principle.

regards michael.

[Mikal]

Hi Michael....thanks I will try to wrap my mind around that one...lol....

will give it some contemplation and come back with my best guess

Mikal

[labelwench]

Hello Michael,

My first impression was that you may have just re-phrased the query, "what is the T.O.E.?"

Everything in our day-to-day reality is just so synchronized that it begs the questions, "Who?, What?, Where?,When?, Why?"

Does any another creature than homo sapiens expend so much energy in the pursuit of these answers?

A primal principle, you ask? On the most immediate scale, I would suggest, perpetual motion, which should predispose infinite diversity.

Regards,

Labelwench

[austintorn@aol.com]

Everything in our day-to-day reality is just so synchronized that it begs the questions, "Who?, What?, Where?,When?, Why?"